Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:31:10 -0700
Subject: OH: Memes and Causual Linkages
They may not even be separate questions. For all I know the correlation
between herbs that include labor, ready or not, and those that clear out
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It may not be characteristic of anything to exist just to replicate
itself, although there are certain forces
which may be thought to do little more, which memes may be cueing off of
or tapping.
I would think one should go on and get excited and go on about virtual
spaces and liminal places and so forth! Or even Phase Space (Briggs and
Peat, "The Philosopher's Stone")
Any minute now, since there is no rest for the wicked and I cannot keep
my nose out of the great Question, what IS life?, I'll want to bring up
Wilhelm Reich and Bions, some notes in William Corliss, "Incredible
Life" ("Living Crystals" pg. 850; 938-939)
and some Reich supplimental material reprinted as an "infolio" by Herman
Meineke
But speaking of Crowley, I've seen a few things that suggest he was thinking in these directions himself, that "Marjorie Daw" thing to name only one…
Peace!
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:38:37 -0700
Subject: Re: A question on memetics
Are you sure I'm taking it all too literally? We could all be new here,
but Could be, my nap is way overdue again...(oh no the Literality Meme!
And here I thought the Impertainence Meme was the one keeping food off
the table!)
Peace!
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 17:14:28 -0700
Subject: OH: Re: Causual Linkages and Archtypical Experiences
In some aspects of these concepts, maybe people will see them as
projections of the strap model of the Electron,
There is the possibility that the very type of sphere of conciousness
that is the circumference of a world of dreams or illusions or
causality, especially trusting that this is the arena for probability
threads to play out their scenarios to project the outcome of complex
event sequences, that the heart of the UFO abductee experience, in
addition to the meanings that are layered on it, layer after layer,
being the densest in information of Shamanic visions and possibly the
densest in information of all memes, that there is still something
intrinsic about it yet to be realized that I am brushing up against
here, but still not quite able to feel what it is. (It is probably an
elephant, but it could be a snake a wall and a tree too. Elephant:
Sigil: Scorpio, just posted that something about Pluto is faster than
light, planetary resonance charge craft? I'm starting to sound like
Crowley in the Thoth *The Universe* give or take the peculiar cross
between a Penrose twistor and a Klien bottle...
(Lately I debate between density and clarity, I know some people,
and...)
Again, the density of information and the urgency of experience (When is
there going to be real counselling for these poor people, when?) imply
something of great significance, and that we are all on the verge of
approaching. Will I soon be talking too about other dimensions and not
just other planets as a cure for overpopulation, will I be talking about
actually living in little "Cul-de-Sacs" of reality?
In those little spheres ("Warp Bubbles")* where probabilistic threads
play out thier possibilities? And none of it will seem so unearthly in
the morning?
You know, I'd like to go back to Practical things, and we talk about
Transcendental stuff over pop-tarts, hmm? This leaves me just too
confused to use it... Sun's gone into Gemini did it? Ah. well.
Maybe I can just do magic and never mind explaining magic to Grandma?
Uh, and if my health or welfare isn't dependent on memes...
*Maybe those scientists confounded to actually produce a warp drive in
order to proceed to warp funnels and warp bubbles are taking the bull by
the tail instead of the horns and don't know it yet? Hmmm...
Peace!
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 17:53:37 -0700
Subject: EVP, "Electro-Necromancy"
If I say we should leave *The Work* (The Great Work) to women, except
they already have enough to do, will only intelligent people kick me for
being an oxymoron of such magnitude? Thus...
There have been some few works on EVP, Electronic Voice Phenomena, which
is used to describe methods of Electronic Communication with the dear
and departed who have shuffled off this mortal coil and joined the
choirs of angels (ie, They're dead, Jim), I cannot locate any of them,
there IS a Rex Reseach "Infolio" on this, or Was, and a number of books
including one called, 'Breakthrough". I think the author is Konstantine
Raudive, maybe, but of course, I think a lot of
things.
I'm probably squandering the bandwidth to say so but the two values of
something like this seem to me to be:
1. To consult the departed to obtain permission to raise them or to
determine where they have gone, if they have reincarnated yet, etc.
2. That what can contact them can serve as the foundation for what can
electronically recorporeorate them. (ie if we could just get a lock on
their "communicator", we'd beam them on board the Star Ship, *Life*)
I have this Aztec book staring me in the face with the black and
turquoise banded skull. Anyone Speak Memese well enough, or should I
translate that this observation is a divinatory serendipity, ie,
that's what they probably used for this, conveniently labelled for
talking to the dead by being a skull. The presence of turquoise here is
intriguing and may actually support what I said about memes and viruses,
I dunno, you have not read as much Theosophy as the Grand and Dizzy
Vizier here, or whatever my list appellation was. (I cannot readily find
this particular reference; We have scanners and computers and we Still
can come up with good book indexes? We put out fires with lamp oil next?
Oy!)
Anyway, in context these oracular skulls who can comprehend the
molecular structure of something, which our digital systems cannot are
trying hard to convince me they are replicators in their spare time. Got
interferometric eyes and all that, like using magic mirrors in
holography sort of or maybe even more like.
There's also some areas here where the Aztec divinatory stuff seems to cross paths with abiogenesis, homunculus, palingenics; there's a drawing of Moctezuma and some unexplained infant around something that looks like what I figure for the ancient Greek replicator, and the context is fro some reason divination of the coming conquistadors. Might as well be that fishy, no one seems to want to explain why they never bothered to use on the Spaniards what they allegedly used on their own alleged sacrificial victims…
(Oh! Oh! Scanners! You ever notice those bar code scanners in grocery
are so Egyptian hieroglyph it hurts? What that, More "Near-Far-Memory"?
The guy who made up Gumby and Pokey may not remember clearly that the
Ancient Mayans did too
(look under "incense") Wish they'd just scan the molecular structure and
poof me up some worldly good, I just seem to perpetually flounder on the
edge of being able to do so myself...but you can scan objects with a
wand, can't you, hint)
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~Fight World Hunger, Give Seeds, the Gift that Keeps on Giving! The World Seed Fund, c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772/ 1029 Lawrence St., Port Townsend, WA 98368. Donations accepted include Seeds; write for details.
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:07:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Symbols
Cultural theft begins and ends somewhere between contending with the
fact that all symbols are universal, archetypical, and have never
belonged to any one anyone and never will, and not wanting to upset the
Benefactors who sound grieved, but have been from time to time too
"Coyote" to tell.
(So guess why *Chronos* is A Grecian Shaman, in addition to Teutonic and
Celtic shamanism being in sheer shambles, even thought the Native
mythology is supposed to best describe the local vegetation...)
I take it the idea of cultural theft here is one that followed the idea
of theft of land which followed the idea that land could be owned?
Strangely, someone who was very dear to me and one of the swiftest on
the uptake of all the people I have met told me *I couldn't be an
Indian*... apparenly no one is perfect, what I AM is Not for others to
decide, is it?
If anyone can fairly dabble in the idea of cultural theft at all, can
they do so without taking Reincarnation into consideration? What have we
unleashed that seems to keep shrinking people's Social-World View even
further, aluminum (cf. Bauxite poisoning)? The sunflowers whisper that this may be the truth...
although they aren't indigenous to Greece...
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~Fight World Hunger, Give Seeds, the Gift that Keeps on Giving! The World Seed Fund, c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772/ 1029 Lawrence St., Port Townsend, WA 98368. Donations accepted include Seeds; write for details.
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:57:12 -0700
Subject: Re: A question on memetics
Hmmm, I may be mistaking the meal and the menu, but maybe I found the
right restaurant? Maybe there is a more subtle underlying reason that
you can treat bad memes as if they were literally a physical pestilence,
although I cannot think of what it is. Coherence and sustaining of
quantum fluctuations in all cases? Cor, what an odd way to think of germ
killers...
(It has also occured that whether or not a meme is parasite or symbiont
all depends on whether you're a "company X" shareholder, or a customer,
I supppose, and that may be differentiative. Although the most insidious
bio-invasions might try desperately to pretend they're contributing
something. (Um, in fact Candance Pert did say the HIV virus has a "tag"
that fits the opiate Receptor, didn't she?)
Hmmm, I know people who have that TV meme, "Not a leaf turns in the
forest and I know it, for I have this channel or that." Sort of thought
that was ego.
But that would be more of a question than an answer, wouldn't it, so,
um, how do those two concepts *work together*? Is the ego actually
employed in the rationalization of one's particular memes does anyone
think? In all cases? (That *Is* the intellect chakra isn't it? Maybe I
should go with the estrogen, I dunno...)
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~Fight World Hunger, Give Seeds, the Gift that Keeps on Giving! The World Seed Fund, c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772/ 1029 Lawrence St., Port Townsend, WA 98368. Donations accepted include Seeds; write for details.
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