Harriett E Dapp
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Harriett E Dapp
Born: 1858 - Brighton, Sussex Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Herbert Dapp (1832- ) Mother: Mary H (1838- )
Harry E Dapp
Husband Harry E Dapp
Born: 1862 - Brighton, Sussex Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Herbert Dapp (1832- ) Mother: Mary H (1838- )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Herbert Dapp
Husband Herbert Dapp
Born: 1859 - Brighton, Sussex Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Herbert Dapp (1832- ) Mother: Mary H (1838- )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
John Dapp and Rachel Gurr
Husband John Dapp
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Rachel Gurr
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 M Edgar Dapp
Born: 1822 - Framfield, Sussex Christened: Died: 9 Aug 1894 - Waikaia Buried: 12 Aug 1894 - WaikaiaSpouse: Ann Emma Fisher (1820-1882) Marr: 10 Nov 1850 - Church of St John, Adelaide
2 M Edwin Dapp 1 2
Born: 1827 - Brighton, Sussex Christened: Died: 26 Sep 1883 - Waikaia Buried: 29 Sep 1883 - "New Cemetery", WaikaiaSpouse: Emma Elizabeth Brand ( -1895) Marr: 10 Apr 1853 - Church of St Nicholas, Brighton
3 M Herbert Dapp
Born: 1832 - Framfield, Sussex Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Mary H (1838- )
General Notes (Husband)
farmer
General Notes for Child Edgar Dapp
Framfield in 1972 was a parish and village in east Sussex, near the Ouse river, 1½ miles south east of Uckfield (pop. 1,641)
Weatherall (unpublished, 1959) and Miller (1966) relate how Edwin and his wife along with Edgar and Mrs Lulham arrived in Dunedin from Melbourne in 1861, with Richard Thompson, widower, and his three year old son John Thomas, and another son Emanuel.
In 1862 they hired 3 horses and a wagon and took a month to travel to Switzers, arriving Nov 1862 - they thought it the height of luxury when they moved into a wattle and daub hut.
Edgar, with a Mr C May, they mined coal at Landslip, described as down the river, near the junction of the Dome, being amongst the first to mine coal.
Described as miner on death cert.
Unknown source tells of Edgar running a boarding house in Welshman's Gully 1 2 3 4
General Notes for Child Edwin Dapp
Edwin is said to have owned or worked in a jewellers in St Johns Wood, London.
After mining for some time, Edwin & Richard Thompson, combined the business of bakers and market gardeners, calling the bakery the "Golden Age", the remains of which can still be seen.
Delivery of goods was by pack mule ("Old Jenny" purchased by Edwin in 1868). Later they invested in two horses and a wagon. The bakery was at Winding creek close to Uttings store. In 1867-68 they developed a market garden on 10 acres known as Deans orchard, at Winding creek and this was very successful, growing peaches, rhubarb, cabbages, etc. However the seasons were not altogether kind, and fruit and even potatoes became hard to grow. In 1872 they commenced dairying with several cows, Edwin carrying the milk around with the bread.
In 1876 Strugglers' Flat in Block 10 was thrown open, and Richard Thompson and Edwin bought two sections, 50 acres each! (sections 11-13 says Miller). They milked cows and made butter. In 1879, they bought three sections from Colin Robertson, and in 1880 a section from Hurley Brothers. Miller mentions a 50 acre section being bought from Patsy O'Donnel. John Thomas Thompson carried on the farm until Edwin died, and then had to go and bake bread which he knew very little about.
The Waikaia Herald of Saturday Sept 30 1882 (have reproduced copy) features a display ad which reads "Dapp and Thompson, Waikaia, Fancy bread and biscuit makers, pastrycooks and confectioners, Bread delivered in town and country, Fruit and vegetables in season, new milk, cream, fresh butter, etc, at lowest prices."
Stones of 1886 says Bakers: Dapp & Thompson; J Wallis
Stones Directory of 1888 states "Richard Thompson and Emma Dapp, bakers and dairy keepers".
The Thompson's took over Dapp's share and the business wa sknown as Thompson & Son.
Medical Notes for Child Edwin Dapp
Buried in the same plot as Charlotte Lulham.
His headstone reads: "In loving remembrance of Edwin Dapp, native of Brighton, Sussex, England, died 26 Sept 1883, aged 56 years. Also Charlotte Lulham, native of the same place, died 13 Nov 1883, aged 80 years (Fraser and Sons, Invercargill)"
His will (have copy) dated 9 February 1877 left everything to Emma, describing her as "my dear wife", and named her as executrix. In the will Emma was initially named as Elizabeth Dapp, "Emma" being added in, probably this means Edwin called her Elizabeth rather than Emma. Witnesses were Colin Robertson, Stoutman, Switzers and John Francis Garry, clerk. Probate granted 16 October 1883, Lawrence Ready, Solicitor, Invercargill
General Notes for Child Herbert Dapp
Household Record 1881 British Census 38 Belgrave St Brighton, Sussex, England
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Herbert DAPP Head M Male 49 Framfield, Sussex, England Iron Mongers Assistant
Mary H. DAPP Wife M Female 43 Chingford, Essex, England Iron Mongers Wife
Harriett E. DAPP Daur U Female 23 Brighton, Sussex, England Assistant Governess (Sch)
Herbert DAPP Son U Male 22 Brighton, Sussex, England Letter Carrier Post
Catherine A. DAPP Daur U Female 20 Brighton, Sussex, England Assistant Governess
Harry E. DAPP Son U Male 19 Brighton, Sussex, England Stamper At P O
Charlotte DAPP Daur Female 17 Brighton, Sussex, England At Home
Louisa E. DAPP Daur Female 13 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Scholar
Walter KING Visitor Male 7 Glasgow, Scotland Scholar
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Source Information:
Family History Library Film 1341255
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1082 / 99
Page Number 40
1895: referred to as "the elder" in Emma Elizabeth Dapp's will - Fishmonger and Poulterer in Brighton; much of Emma's estate was left to him.
Louisa E Dapp
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Louisa E Dapp
Born: 1868 - Wandsworth, Surrey, England Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Herbert Dapp (1832- ) Mother: Mary H (1838- )
Donald Bethune Stuart and Maryann Emma Dapp
Husband Donald Bethune Stuart 5 6
Born: 1845 - Ross-shire, Scotland Christened:
Died: Tues 28 Aug 1883 - Tuapeka West, Central Otago Buried: Wed 29 Aug 1883 - Lawrence cemetery
Father: Donald Stuart ( - ) Mother:
Marriage: Tues 3 Feb 1874 - Switzers
Wife Maryann Emma Dapp
AKA: Marion Born: Sat 2 Aug 1856 - Dowling Forest, Ballarat, Victoria Christened: Died: Tues 15 July 1913 - Gore hospital Buried: Fri 18 July 1913 - Waikaia cemetery
Father: Edgar Dapp (1822-1894) Mother: Ann Emma Fisher (1820-1882)
Other Spouse: George Robson (1848- ) - Thurs 15 July 1886 - Registrar's Office, Waikaia
Children
1 M Edgar John Stuart
AKA: Ted Born: 1874? Christened: Died: after 1913? Buried:
2 M William Stuart
AKA: Bill Born: 1876? Christened: Died: Aug 1905 - Drowned In Gold Dredging Accident Buried:Spouse: Never Married
3 M Charles Edward Stuart
AKA: Charlie Born: 1882? - Dunedin Christened: Died: 28 Jan 1962 - Auckland (home: 44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert) Buried: 30 Jan 1962 - Purewa (Plot M013079)Spouse: Jessie Robertson Finch (1887-1969) Marr: 1909 - Milton, Otago
4 F Annie Stuart
Born: 13 Sep 1882 - Lawrence Christened: Died: 16 Apr 1944 - Invercargill Buried: - InvercargillSpouse: Arthur McCrystall (1872-1954) Marr: 23 Sep 1903 - Waikaia (FIrst Presbyterian Church)
General Notes (Husband)
Donald had red hair & red beard, a large brass framed portrait was once owned by son Arthur
They lived near the Chinese camp at Lawrence, and the Chinese helped Marion when she was left destitute when Donald drowned.
Medical Notes (Husband)
unmarked grave
Inquest into Donald's death supplied by National Archives (J1883/1727), 20 Sept 1976:
As transcribed (the copy and writing is difficult to read):
...... indicates word(s) unclear
3.9.83
Coroner, Lawrence
Colony of New Zealand to wit
Inquest proceedings in D B Stewart
Informations of witnesses severally taken and acknowledged on behalf of our Sovereign Lady the Queen, touching the death of Donald Bethume Stewart, at the dwellinghouse of John Buefin, known by the name of Tuapeka West Accommodation House in the Provincial District of Otago on the colony above-mentioned on Wednesday the 29th day of August one thousand eight hundred and eighty three before James Harroh Esquire J.P.
for the said colony, on an Inquisition then and there taken on view of the body of Donald Bethume Stewart, then and there lying dead, as follows, to wit:
George Stevenson being sworn, saith that I am a storekeeper residing at Tuapeka West. I knew the deceased Donald Bethume Stewart, seeing him occasionly for food. I saw arrive about 4pm Monday the 27th last. I spoke to him on business matters and left a short time after but returned to my place at about 8.30pm. We had a chat about him bringing out some bread for me from Lawrence.
He left my place at about 9pm, and that was the last I saw of him. I said goodnight, he appeared to be in good spirits and not affected with drink - he appeared to be a little .....when lighting his pipe, his replies to my questions were that of a man in his natural senses.
James Fahey, being sworn saith as follows, that I am a farmer residing at Tuapeka West. I remember Tuesday last the 28th of August I left my own residence with some horses for the purpose of watering them in a hole. About 5 chains from my house and on track leading to the main road, and on arriving there I saw some light clothing in the hole, being satisfied it was the body of a man, I left to procure assistance to get it out.
Myself and John Cluffey went to the water hole and pulled the deceased out and found it to be the body of Donald Bethume Stewart which was quite dead and stiff. The body was lying on its face and nearly covered with water. The water hole wld be about seven feet square and the deepest portion would not exceed twelve inches. I got my horse as soon as possible and went to Lawrence and reported the matter to Segt. Major Moore.
I have known the deceased for about two years. He was in the habit of coming to the bush the water hole for fire wood. There is a hut about 15 chains away in which resided when staying in the Tuapeka West. I heard that he had a wife and family residing near Lawrence and I believe they are in very poor circumstances.
Samuel Moore being sworn saith as follows. That I am a Sergeanr Major in the Armed Constabulary and reside at Lawrence. At about 12 noon yesterday the 28th of August last, the last witness James Fahey, reported to me that he had found Donald Stewart in a water hole near Buefin's Accommodation house, Tuapeka West.
I have today examined the body and identify it as that of Donald Bethune Stewart but found no marks of violence thereon. I have known the deceased for some years and during the first few months. I am aware that he has been intemperate.
He leaves a wife and four children: their ages re ten, eight, four years, and the youngest 11 months. They reside not far from the Chinese camp near Lawrence. I am not aware of his having any property, and so far as I can learn, the family is left in a destitute state.
Mrs Stewart informed that his age was 38 years, and anative of Ross-shire in Scotland.
Robert Withers, being sworn, saith as follows. I am a duly qualified medical practitioner and registered in New Zealand and reside in Lawrence. I have this day made a postmortem on the body of Donald Bethune Stewart, whose age I estimate to be about 40 years. I found no marks of violence, the face was covered with mud and the beard was matted over the face, there was also mud within his mouth. The body was well nourished and on opening it I found the right side of th eheart very much distended with blood. The lungs were also full of blood and contained a quantity of watery fluid. The stomach was empty and it thou was no smell of spirits. The left kidney was very much disuded and in it were eight stones of various sizes. The liver was much enlarged and fatty. The other organs were healthy. The condition of the heart and lungs would show that the deceased died from asphyxia.
[The last page is signed by the jurors at the Inquest. Jurors had been called because no coroners were available. Inquest took place at John Buefin's Tuapeka West Accommodation House on 29 August 1883. The jurors were: THomas Edward Williams (foreman), Patrick (Patt) Fahey, Alexander Braithwaite, John Smith, Charles Mullens, John Buefins, John Sheehan, James Taylor, John Cluffey, Archibald McCorkindale, William Wilson, Nathan Stafford - in front of Jonas Harrop J.P.]
[They certified that "the said Donald Bethume Stewart to the Jurors afore-said on the day of 28 Aug in the year aforesaid was found drowned and suffocated in a certain water-hole on abye track about a quarter of a kile from the main road and half a mile from Buefin's Accommodation House Tuapeka West, and that the said man has no marks of violence appearing on his body but how or by what means the said Donald Bethume Stewart became drowned and suffocated no evidence did appear to the said Jurors"]
General Notes (Wife)
General oral sources:
Vera Tuffery
Elta & Eileen Mackay
have birth cert. no 2013/1856
Large framed portrait of Marion, in a riding habit, exists with Elta MacKay.
Eileen Mackay: "I thought grandmother (Dapp) Robson came from St Johns Wood, London...Mum often spoke of Fishers relations..." (31 Jan 1979 letter)
Marion was a nurse / midwife
Medical Notes (Wife)
death cert.
funeral notice in Mataura Ensign of 17 July 1913
Notes (Marriage)
Donald was 29, Marion was just 17. He was a shepherd.
have copy of cert. 13/1874
General Notes for Child Edgar John Stuart
Ted left Waikaia soon after his brother Bill was drowned, as they were very close, and Ted felt partly responsible for Bill's death.
On his mother's death cert. (she died 15 Jul 1913) it says TWO living male issue - that would be Charlie, and Ted! Where was Ted? Ages of living males 35, and 31
General Notes for Child Charles Edward Stuart
stock inspector (death cert.)
It is said that Jessie's sister had many children, and Charlie and Jessie adopted one, a boy called Tui. After being told he was adopted when older, supposed to have left his adopted parents. Tui was last resident in Thames?, and has many photos.
Charlie was a baker, interested in photography.
He went to the First World War. On his return he trained as a herd tester.
They lived at 44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert, Auckland. About 1952 they visited Vera Tuffery at Invercargill.
"Uncle Charlie" wrote to Vera.
They were unable to have children.
Mt Albert Electoral roll 1951:
44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert
Charles Edward STUART - inspector
Jessie Robertson STUART, married
CT 392/217 shows property (928 sq m) bought by Charlie, "stock inspector" 25 Feb 1925 - see scan (note Rob Roy st was merged into Alberton Ave)
Transferred to Jessie, widow, 16 Aug 1962 and she sold it 11 March 1966.
Medical Notes for Child Charles Edward Stuart
NZ Herald death notice reads "On January 28 1962 at his residence, 44 Alberton Ave, dearly loved husband of Jessie Robertson and loved pop of Dot and Tui and grandpop of Barry, Owen, Barbara, Judy and Jenny; at rest. A service will be held at W H Tongue and Sons chapel tomorrow, Tuesday, at 12 noon, funeral then leaving for Purewa Cemetery"
Purewa: flat lawn plaque area, area M adjacent areas F & H, row 13 (4th row along going towards area H, row starts with Pauline Wallace plaque)
inscription reads: "In Loving Memory of Charles Edward Stuart, beloved husband of Jessie Stuart, died 28 Jan 1962"
George Robson and Maryann Emma Dapp
Husband George Robson
Born: 1848 - Alnwick, Northumberland, England Christened: Died: Sat 17 Sept 1932 Buried: Tues 20 Sept 1932 - Eastern Cemetery, Invercargill, Lot 6B, Block 2Marriage: Thurs 15 July 1886 - Registrar's Office, Waikaia
Wife Maryann Emma Dapp
AKA: Marion Born: Sat 2 Aug 1856 - Dowling Forest, Ballarat, Victoria Christened: Died: Tues 15 July 1913 - Gore hospital Buried: Fri 18 July 1913 - Waikaia cemetery
Father: Edgar Dapp (1822-1894) Mother: Ann Emma Fisher (1820-1882)
Other Spouse: Donald Bethune Stuart (1845- ) 5 6 - Tues 3 Feb 1874 - Switzers
Children
1 F Margaret Robson
Born: 1891? - Waikaia Christened: Died: 27 Nov 1955 - Picton Buried:Spouse: Maurice Cory ( - ) Marr: Timaru?
2 M George Robson
Born: 1892? - Waikaia Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Sadie Reidy ( - ) Marr: Christchurch?
3 F Emma Elizabeth Robson
AKA: Amy Born: 29 Sep 1889 - Waikaia Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: John MacKay ( -1960) Marr: 1908 - Waikaia
General Notes (Husband)
Eileen Mackay: he was a remittance man, relations who were jewellers in England. Had sisters in England and two of his brothers emigrated to Australia.
Rabbiter (on Emma's birth cert.) & labourer (on marriage cert.)
General Notes (Wife)
General oral sources:
Vera Tuffery
Elta & Eileen Mackay
have birth cert. no 2013/1856
Large framed portrait of Marion, in a riding habit, exists with Elta MacKay.
Eileen Mackay: "I thought grandmother (Dapp) Robson came from St Johns Wood, London...Mum often spoke of Fishers relations..." (31 Jan 1979 letter)
Marion was a nurse / midwife
Medical Notes (Wife)
death cert.
funeral notice in Mataura Ensign of 17 July 1913
Notes (Marriage)
After Marion remarried, George did not want / could not keep the three Stuart sons and they were placed in the orphanage (it later became Lorne Hospital) just out of Invercargill at Lorneville.
He lived at Mandeville at the time of the marriage. (cert.) and had been in NZ for 5 years. (ditto)
Dawson
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Dawson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: J. H. Dawson ( - ) Mother:
Ebenezer James Dawson and Eliza Gateland
Husband Ebenezer James Dawson
Born: 13 May 1837 - Kings Medows, Tasmania Christened: Died: 17 Jul 1907 - Invercargill Buried:
Father: William Dawson (1810-1883) Mother: Ann Lydia Barrett (1809-1894)
Marriage: 25 Apr 1861 - Launceston, Tasmania
Wife Eliza Gateland
Born: 25 Apr 1844 - Launceston, Tasmania Christened: Died: 3 Aug 1924 - Invercargill Buried:
Father: Capt Gateland ( - ) Mother: Ann (1804-1900)
Children
1 F Winnifred Alice Marion Dawson
Born: 15 Apr 1882 - Centre Bush, Southland Christened: Died: 18 Nov 1971 - Napier Buried:Spouse: Harold Humphrey Matthews (1884-1969) Marr: 15 Apr 1909 - Invercargill, St Peters Methodist Church, Elles Rd, Rev A Pybus
George Henry Hunt and Frances Elizabeth Dawson
Husband George Henry Hunt
AKA: Harry, Henry Born: 26 Apr 1858 - Invercargill Christened: Died: 5 Sep 1946 - Auckland (residence, Crown Hill, Milford) Buried: - Private interment
Father: George Lott Hunt (1826- ) Mother: Jane Scobie McKay or Mackay (1834-1918)
Marriage: 9 Oct 1879 - Seaward Bush, Invercargill
Wife Frances Elizabeth Dawson
AKA: Fanny Born: 1859 - Tasmania Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: J. H. Dawson ( - ) Mother:
Children
1 M George H Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
2 M Frank N Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
3 M Tasman M Hunt
AKA: Tas Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
4 F Lillian R Hunt
AKA: Lil Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Crookshank ( - )
5 F Dolly (Hetty) F Hunt
AKA: Dol Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Marshall ( - )
6 F Bertha E M Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Wait ( - )
7 F Alma V Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: W Limbrick ( - )
General Notes (Husband)
from obituary NZ Herald 10 Sept 1946, p. 8, and sources below:
first male European child born in Invercargill
began working for 5s a week on a back country station about 60 miles from Invercargill
shearing on the Waimea Plains, then in sawmills in Southland
1887 they moved to Hawkes Bay working in sawmills about Dannevirke and Woodville; later he farmed at Dannevirke, and in 1907 at Putaruru (700 acres), later at Buckland.
Came to Auckland in 1927, diamonding wedding 1939
came south around the time of their Diamond wedding (60th) in 1939 (Hall-Jones / Invercargill Pioneers) - Vera Tuffery remembers their visit
Ray Matthews has photos of Harry and Fanny
birth date from Registrar General's Office
sources:
"65 years married" [platinum wedding anniversary] article NZ Herald 9 Oct 1944, p.2
"both enjoy fair health and are able to work in their garden"
"66th anniversary" article NZ Herald, 15 Oct 1945, p.2 "he remembers the opening of the Invercargill-Makarewa railway, the rails of which were made from lengths of eight by eight inch timber. The rails became so slippery with the rain that the train was unable to return to Invercargill" "have seven children, 20 grandchildren, and six great grandchildren"
death notice "beloved husband of... and loving father of..."
a few days later "Hunt, On Sept 5 1946 at his residence Crown Hill, Milford, Henry, very dearly-loved grandfather of Georgie; aged 88 years"
General Notes for Child Alma V Hunt
Milford, 1945
George Lott Hunt and Hannah Dawson
Husband George Lott Hunt
Born: 1887? Christened: Died: Bef 1980 - 9 Avenal st, Invercargill Buried: Fri 20 Dec of ? - Eastern Cemetery, Invercargill
Father: George McKay Hunt (1853-1901) Mother: Emily Jane McIvor ( - )
Marriage:
Wife Hannah Dawson
Born: 1893? Christened: Died: 7 Jan 1980 - Invercargill Buried: 9 Jan 1980 - Crematorium, Invercargill
Children
1 F Mavis Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Stan Johnston ( - )
2 F Morna Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Bef 1980 Buried:Spouse: Gordon Carnie ( - )
3 F Valmi Hunt
AKA: Val Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Des Ellis ( - )
4 M Stanley Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Bef 1980 Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
a Baker. Supposed to have had Dr McCrystal's pistol, later given to Southland Museum?
Medical Notes (Wife)
aged 87
146 Exmouth st, Invercargill, 1980
J. H. Dawson
Husband J. H. Dawson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: William Dawson ( - ) Mother:
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Dawson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
2 F Frances Elizabeth Dawson
AKA: Fanny Born: 1859 - Tasmania Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: George Henry Hunt (1858-1946) Marr: 9 Oct 1879 - Seaward Bush, Invercargill
General Notes (Husband)
sawmiller and contractor
William Dawson
Husband William Dawson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 M J. H. Dawson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
town engineer of Invercargill for 23 years
General Notes for Child J. H. Dawson
sawmiller and contractor
Diack and Jean Sinclair Manson
Husband Diack
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Jean Sinclair Manson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Donald Manson (1839-1904) Mother: Barbara Barclay (1848-1920)
Brent Ellis
Husband Brent Ellis
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Des Ellis ( - ) Mother: Valmi Hunt ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Des Ellis and Valmi Hunt
Husband Des Ellis
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Valmi Hunt
AKA: Val Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: George Lott Hunt (1887-Bef 1980) Mother: Hannah Dawson (1893-1980)
Children
1 M Brent Ellis
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Alan Fastier and Gwen MacKay
Husband Alan Fastier
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Gwen MacKay
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: John MacKay ( -1960) Mother: Emma Elizabeth Robson (1889- )
Children
1 M William Fastier
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
William Fastier
Husband William Fastier
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Alan Fastier ( - ) Mother: Gwen MacKay ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Charles Edward Stuart and Jessie Robertson Finch
Husband Charles Edward Stuart
AKA: Charlie Born: 1882? - Dunedin Christened: Died: 28 Jan 1962 - Auckland (home: 44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert) Buried: 30 Jan 1962 - Purewa (Plot M013079)
Father: Donald Bethune Stuart (1845- ) 5 6 Mother: Maryann Emma Dapp ( - )
Marriage: 1909 - Milton, Otago
Wife Jessie Robertson Finch
Born: 1887? - Milton, Otago Christened: Died: 30 May 1969 - Thames Hospital Buried: 2 Jun 1969 - Purewa (Plot M013079) - with husband
Children
1 M Stuart Albert Finch Stuart
AKA: Charlie, Tui Born: 1915? Christened: Died: After 1970 Buried: Status: AdoptedSpouse: Dorothy Lillian (1916-1970)
General Notes (Husband)
stock inspector (death cert.)
It is said that Jessie's sister had many children, and Charlie and Jessie adopted one, a boy called Tui. After being told he was adopted when older, supposed to have left his adopted parents. Tui was last resident in Thames?, and has many photos.
Charlie was a baker, interested in photography.
He went to the First World War. On his return he trained as a herd tester.
They lived at 44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert, Auckland. About 1952 they visited Vera Tuffery at Invercargill.
"Uncle Charlie" wrote to Vera.
They were unable to have children.
Mt Albert Electoral roll 1951:
44 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert
Charles Edward STUART - inspector
Jessie Robertson STUART, married
CT 392/217 shows property (928 sq m) bought by Charlie, "stock inspector" 25 Feb 1925 - see scan (note Rob Roy st was merged into Alberton Ave)
Transferred to Jessie, widow, 16 Aug 1962 and she sold it 11 March 1966.
Medical Notes (Husband)
NZ Herald death notice reads "On January 28 1962 at his residence, 44 Alberton Ave, dearly loved husband of Jessie Robertson and loved pop of Dot and Tui and grandpop of Barry, Owen, Barbara, Judy and Jenny; at rest. A service will be held at W H Tongue and Sons chapel tomorrow, Tuesday, at 12 noon, funeral then leaving for Purewa Cemetery"
Purewa: flat lawn plaque area, area M adjacent areas F & H, row 13 (4th row along going towards area H, row starts with Pauline Wallace plaque)
inscription reads: "In Loving Memory of Charles Edward Stuart, beloved husband of Jessie Stuart, died 28 Jan 1962"
General Notes (Wife)
Vera Tuffery says Jessie retired to Thames where she had relatives
District Homes, Tararu Rd, 1969 (residential address on burial record)
age at death given as 84, making birth date 1885
Medical Notes (Wife)
death index: 84Thames 2324
no plaque for Jessie on plot
death notice Auckland Star: "Stuart, Jessie Robertson, on May 30, 1969 at Thames Hospital, beloved wife of the late Charles Stuart, late of Mt Albert, Auckland, aged 84 years. At rest. A service will be held at Purewa Cemetery at 2.15pm Monday"
General Notes for Child Stuart Albert Finch Stuart
1951: at 41 Alberton Ave, Mt Albert, glazier
CT 338/59 shows property 1391 sq m bought by Stuart Stuart 21 Feb 1946, and sold 9 Sept 1953
Company Manager, 746 Tararu Rd, Thames, in 1966
same address - glass merchant in 1970, stated as Charles Stuart, next of kin to Dorothy, though 1966 Hauraki electoral roll states "Stuart Albert Finch Stuart"
William Fisher
Husband William Fisher
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Ann Emma Fisher
AKA: Annie Born: 1820 - Mile End Road, London Christened: Died: 17 Dec 1882 - Waikaia Buried: 19 Dec 1882 - WaikaiaSpouse: Barrett ( - ) Marr: (Widowed)Spouse: Edgar Dapp (1822-1894) Marr: 10 Nov 1850 - Church of St John, Adelaide
General Notes (Husband)
a shipwright (Anne Emma's death cert.)
General Notes for Child Ann Emma Fisher
at her marriage to Edgar on the cert. it says widow of North Terrace. She was a Mrs Barrett.
Said to have had a brother who was a well known physican
Gardiner and Agnes Manson
Husband Gardiner
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Agnes Manson
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Donald Manson (1839-1904) Mother: Barbara Barclay (1848-1920)
Ronald Grant
Husband Ronald Grant
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Ernest Alexander Grant ( -1969) Mother: Isabel Harriet Jane Browne ( -1974)
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
doctor
Vietnam, 1969
Ohakea, 1974
Ken White and Rosemary Grant
Husband Ken White
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Rosemary Grant
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Ernest Alexander Grant ( -1969) Mother: Isabel Harriet Jane Browne ( -1974)
General Notes (Husband)
of Mosgiel
General Notes (Wife)
Husband William Grant
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Ernest Alexander Grant ( -1969) Mother: Isabel Harriet Jane Browne ( -1974)
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
teacher
Dunedin, 1974
William G Kindleside and Gratwicke
Husband William G Kindleside
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: William Gratwicke ( -1821) Mother: Jemina ( -1867)
Children
1 M William Gratwicke Kindleside
Born: Christened: Died: 5 Dec 1862 Buried:Spouse: Never Married
2 F Jemina Elizabeth Kindleside
Born: Christened: Died: 26 Sep 1867 Buried:Spouse: Archdell, Dr ( - )
Heasman and Amy Gratwicke
Husband Heasman
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Amy Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: 20 Mar 1798 Buried:
Father: Thomas Gratwicke (1685-1744) Mother: Jane Knight ( - )
Children
1 M John Gratwicke Heasman
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
2 F Amy Heasman
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Newlands ( - )
Mary Gratwicke
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Mary Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Edward Gratwicke ( - ) Mother: Ann ( - )
George Jupp and Philadelphia Gratwicke
Husband George Jupp
Born: Christened: 8 May 1736 - Angmering, West Sussex Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Jupp ( - ) Mother: Ann ( - )
Marriage: 8 Dec 1761 - Angmering, West Sussex
Wife Philadelphia Gratwicke
Born: - Angmering, West Sussex Christened: Died: 5 Dec 1832 Buried:
Father: Thomas Gratwicke (1685-1744) Mother: Jane Knight ( - )
Children
1 F Charlotte Jupp
Born: Christened: 17 Apr 1763 - Rustington, Sussex Died: After 1832 Buried:Spouse: Holmes ( - )
2 M William Jupp
Born: Christened: 29 Apr 1764 - Rustington, Sussex Died: Buried:
3 M George Spencer Jupp
Born: Christened: 21 Jan 1767 - Rustington, Sussex Died: Buried: 18 Dec 1819 - Rustington, SussexSpouse: (Harriet) Susannah ( -1821)
Notes (Marriage)
he was of Rustington
General Notes for Child George Spencer Jupp
Farmer of Rustington, Sussex
Thomas Gratwicke
Husband Thomas Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Edward Gratwicke ( - ) Mother: Ann ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Thomas Gratwicke and Jane Knight
Husband Thomas Gratwicke
Born: Christened: 20 Feb 1685 or 1686 Died: Buried: 20 Feb 1744 or 1745Marriage: 15 Jan 1723 or 1724 - St Michaels, Lewes)
Wife Jane Knight
Born: - Broadwater, West Sussex Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Amy Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: 20 Mar 1798 Buried:Spouse: Heasman ( - )
2 M Edward Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Ann ( - )
3 M William Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: 1821 Buried:Spouse: Jemina ( -1867)
4 F Jane Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: 13 Dec 1821 Buried:Spouse: Croker ( - )
5 F Philadelphia Gratwicke
Born: - Angmering, West Sussex Christened: Died: 5 Dec 1832 Buried:Spouse: George Jupp (1736- ) Marr: 8 Dec 1761 - Angmering, West Sussex
Notes (Marriage)
pronouned Lewis
General Notes for Child William Gratwicke
His will gave rise to a series of legal disputes: the Gratwicke Trust cases., one of which ended up in the Equity or Chancery Court in London in 1873-74 it not longer.
see 1 Equity 177 (1865?)
See Richter's letters to Caroline, eldest daughter of John and Jane McCrystal, 1906-1907.
Henry Peters may have inherited his 1st wife's share or part thereof. However, Debrett's doubt this since he was not in the blood line.
A 500 bank draft was sent out from England in 1873, and arrived at the time of Dr McCrystal's death. His widow did ultimately receive it. Whether this was part of the Gratwicke Trust cases distribution, or part of his regular remittance, it is not known.
J E Richter composed a song "When the wattles are in bloom" and dedicated it to Caroline McCrystall, sending it to her when Tui Lundie-Robertson was a small girl. He had a great affection for Caroline.
Richter, letter Oct 5 1906 asserts: "Henry Peters was married to Miss Gratwick in 1825 at Arundel...
J E Richter to a Mr Harvey, 12 April 1907:
A neighbour of mine at Wyong named Levett recently took a trip to England, and as he has a brother in London who is a barrister and KC, I gave him a history of the case, to induce his brother to investigate, which he did to a certain extent and the result is briefly as follows:
"William Gratwicke died 1821, leaving the life interest in his landed estate to his grand daughter for her lifetime, and after her, to her husband. They enjoyed the benefits of the property till about 1860 when both died, leaving no children. The property was then to be sold, and turned into money in terms of the will, and divided amonst the next of kin. As the testator could not possibly know who were likely to be the next of kin - they, the next of kin, had to find themselves out to participate in the distribution of the money which amounted to 150,000
The next of kin were found in the grandchildren of Gratwicke's three married sisters, of whom the mother of Dr McCrystall was one of the grandchildren. This mother died about 1850, leaving the Doctor entitled to her share. The case was before the Equity Court in London for a year or two about 1872-75, 500 was sent out to the Doctor as a progress payment of the Court's award in 1873, but he died before it arrived at Switzers, where he was then in practice. Mrs McCrystall however received this money. When this money was sent it was intimated that more was to come, probably 2000-3000. But none came, or any tidings thereof. It is supposed that the rest of the money of the doctor's share was appropriated by his step brothers and sisters, but that has to be ascertained yet. The doctor's mother's maiden name was supposed to be Jupp, and there were some two or more participants in the distribution.
Mrs R Matthews is one of the Doctor's daughters, residing at Appleby, the solicitor's wife, and Mrs John Brown of Appleby, wife of the valuator of the County Council in Southland is another. Both of those husbands are now deceased. They both have large families. Should you have any curiousity or interest in the Gratwicke affair, you will find it in the law books: Heasman v Pearse in L.R. Equity vol 8, 599 also L.R. Equity vol 11, 522 These cases were tried about 1872. There was also another one tried about 1864 - see 1 Eqs 177
The Appleby people are in much excitement over these recent developments, but I fear that too much time has now passed (34 years) for anything to be now got out of that estate. There is no telling though - and money may even now be lying in Chancery for them.
Unnamed Gratwicke
Husband Unnamed Gratwicke
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Edward Gratwicke ( - ) Mother: Ann ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
7 Children Gregory
Husband 7 Children Gregory
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Matthew W Gregory ( - ) Mother: Elizabeth Hunt ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Matthew W Gregory and Elizabeth Hunt
Husband Matthew W Gregory
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Elizabeth Hunt
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Frederick William Hunt (1817- ) Mother: Mary Presswood ( - )
Children
1 U 7 Children Gregory
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Boyd Guard
Husband Boyd Guard
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Gilbert Guard ( - ) Mother: Mavis Cory ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Dawn Guard
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Dawn Guard
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Gilbert Guard ( - ) Mother: Mavis Cory ( - )
Roderick McKay and Barbara Gunn
Husband Roderick McKay
AKA: Ruarie Revach (Gaelic), Mackay Born: 11 Aug 1803 - Durness, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: 1858? - Wallacetown, Southland Buried: - beside Wallacetown cemetery?Marriage: Fri 13 Oct 1820 - Westmorison, Durness, Sutherland
Wife Barbara Gunn
Born: 1795 or 1805 - Westmorison, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: Sat 29 Dec 1877 - Invercargill Buried: Mon 31 Dec 1877 - Lot 6, Block 2, Eastern Cemetery, Invercargill
Father: George Gunn ( - ) Mother:
Children
1 F Barbara McKay
Born: Abt 1821 - Durness, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: 3 Oct 1888 - Otama Buried: - Eastern Cemetery, Invercargill, with motherSpouse: Thomas Barclay (1819-1891) Marr: 11 Feb 1844 - Rogart, Durness, Sutherland
2 M Donald McKay
Born: 26 Feb 1823 - Strathmore, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Ann MacMillan ( - )
3 F Ann McKay
Born: - Stratbig, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: May 1825 Died: - Hawera Buried:Spouse: Donald Coutts (1827- ) Marr: 18 Sep or Oct 1856 - Kaiapoi (John Anderson's house) by Rev Frazer
4 M John Clark McKay
Born: Abt 1827 - Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: Buried:
5 M Hugh McKay
Born: Christened: 20 Nov 1829 - Stratbig, Sutherland, Scotland Died: Buried:
6 M George McKay
Born: Christened: 20 Mar 1832 Died: Buried:
7 F Jane Scobie McKay or Mackay
Born: 1834? - Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: Sat 1 Jun 1918 - Anne st, Gladstone, Invercargill Buried: Mon 3 Jun 1918 - Eastern Cemetery, Invercargill, no 180, Block 8 - no stoneSpouse: George Lott Hunt (1826- ) Marr: 19 May 1852 - Church of England, Lyttelton Barracks, by Rev B W Dudley. (Widowed)Spouse: John McCrystal (alias) (1830-1873) Marr: 4 Oct 1860 - Registrar's Office (J Blacklock), Invercargill (no 8.)
8 M Unnamed McKay
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
possibly parents: MacKay or Mac Eani Roderick married Christian Campbell 28 Sept 1787, Fairly, Durness, Sutherland
reputedly Head Gamekeeper to the Duke of Sutherland, in Scotland
here in NZ: farmer
Acland's Early Canterbury Runs (1951) p. 70, says Roderick took up run 73 (part of Mt Thomas st. in Canterbury) and sold it May 1854
There is an entry for Roderick in the MacDonald Index of Canterbury Biographies in the Canterbury Museum, it mentions "He was evidently a man of superiority and ability...they came out in the Duke of Portland, wife Barbra aged 46, and Donald, 28, John Clark, 24 and Ann 26, Jane 16...C O Torlesse had a good deal to say of him. In his jnl 10 Oct 1852 he says Roderick McKay arrived, put him in charge of one of one of his flocks at Fernside. On 2 Apr 1856 Torlessse bought Birch Hill from McKay."
H H Matthews has the charming story that Roderick died on his birthday, and the table he was building at the time was later used for his coffin - lovely!
Gray's Wallacetown school - 100 a century of learning (1965) says:
Donald McKay was long regarded as the pioneer settler of the area, but recent researches show it was his father. The family came to Lyttleton on the ship the Cressy in 1851. Sons Donald and John Clark became runholders on a large scale. Roderick came to W'town in 1857.
John Mitchell was the first settler in Wallacetown, in about June 1856, living in a hut overlooking the Tomoparakau stream. J T Thomson's sketch map of Oct 1856 shows Mitchell's house. Roderick took over Mitchell's hut/house, later building a new dwelling. "There is probably still a mound on Mr Hamill's property where the old sod hut was".
After Roderick died, his rights were purchased by Matthew Holmes for the Australian and NZ Land Company.
in fact it was the Duke of Portland, which left Portsmouth 18 June 1851, arriving at Port Victoria, Lyttleton, 3 months later, on 24 Sept. Coming in at 533 tons, under Capt Cubitt, and part of the Canterbury Assn ships (131 passengers). The family were in steerage. (source NZ Genealogist vol 5 no 46, Jul 1974, 89-92). Party included Barbara & Thomas Barclay.
heard on Radio Southland's pioneer diary 2 April 1976 (Station 4ZA):
"Mr and Mrs McKay & daughter Jane came out in the late 1840's to Lyttelton on the ship Cressy and were the first settlers in Wallacetown.
A brother J C McKay had a run in Te Anau. George Henry Hunt was drowned coming from Ruapuke island. His widow was given a large property where Smith and Calder McKays stands today. If she remarried it was to revert to her daughter Jean. She did remarry to Dr McCrystal who practiced medicine and surgery in Riverton and Invercargill, before moving to Switzers in 1869. There he died in July 1873"
From Invercargill Pioneers by F J Hall-Jones, 1946, p. 29-30, a sometimes erroneous account of the Hunts and McKays:
"George Hunt
George Henry Hunt came with his brother Frederick (went to Pitts island, Chathams and another brother Charles is stated to have discovered the Thames goldfield) to Lyttelton in 1851, and there married 19 May 1852 Jane McKay, who had come out from Sunderlandshire with her parents on the Cressy. Hunt lived at Rangiora for a while, and in the middle of 1856 drove a mob of cattle south to the Maroroa run for his wife's brothers John Clark and Donald. In Sept 1856 he was J T Thomson's guide from the Mataura to Invercargill, and was employed on the survey of the harbour. Mrs Hunt's father, Roderick, came south and settled at Wallacetown, taking over the property vacated by John Mitchell of New River Ferry. Of Roderick's family, J C McKay was a prominent runholder, versifier, member of the Provincial Council and owner of the hotel site at the cnr of Tay and Deveron sts; Donald was embroiled in litigation concerning his mental capacity; Barbara married Thomas Barclay, who came down with their four children to Longbush in Dec 1856; Anne married one Coutts, a flourmiller) The Hunts settled with their two children in Invercargill at the end of 1856 and their son Henry was one of the first children born in the town. Their home was on the site of H & J Smith's tearooms and at the rear towards Esk st was their sawpit, the first in Invercargill. Hunt also acquired a boat and engaged in lightering. He lost his life at New River Heads 7 Dec 1858 when taking the Wilson-Grieve wedding party across to Ruapuke.
He had taken up his sawpit section in Esk st in the name of his infant son George Henry, but was unable to secure a title to his Tay st section. This was taken up by W H Calder at the first sale of sections and was conveyed by him in 1859 to Hunt's daughter Jane. This was arranged by Hunt's brothers who had the property registered in the daughter's name not the widows as it would automatically pass to the latter's husband if she remarried. It was here that Alexander McNab's sister died. When she came of age, Jane Hunt transferred the section to her mother, then Jane Peters, widow, who sold it in 1879 to Price and Bulleid for 2000. In the latter year a section of Hunt's at Wallacetown (J P McGearty's) was also conveyed by his eldest son (as heir) to Jane Peters, and the Est st section was later sold by Henry Hunt to Peter M Peters, draper.
In Oct 1860 Mrs Hunt married Dr John McCrystal, and for some reason, William Stuart was appointed by the Court in 1864 as the legal guardian of her four children. On the doctor's death, she married Peters, and her fourth and last helpmate was Charles W Reid, a letter carrier. Of Hunt's first family, George McKay Hunt was a coachdriver for 27 years and a storeman at both Switzers and Invercargill; he died about 1900, leaving a family of 5 or 6. Jane Scobie Hunt remained single and John Hugh Hunt became a carpenter. George Henry Hunt was educated in Invercargill, worked on country stations and took up sawmilling., He married 9 Oct 1879 Frances Elizabeth, a daughter of John Henry Dawson, of Seaward Bush and grand daughter of William Dawson who was town engineer of Invercargill for 20 years. They left in the eighties for the North Island and celebrated their diamond wedding in 1939. Hunt could remember Puetellkow's boat being hauled down Tay st by a team of bullocks, also the opening of the Makarewa railway, when his brother George had to walk home in the rain.
By her marriage to Dr McCrystal, Hunt's widow had a second family - Caroline (married Richard Williamson Hall, solicitor), Fanny (married John Brown, valuer), Arthur (Invercargill and Otatara) and Onslow (died in infancy).
Medical Notes (Husband)
died on his birthday?
Helen Gray author of several Wallacetown history's writes that my late father James Lindsay Wilson remembered that before the Old Cemetery was formed, one named McKay was buried along side. (letter to compiler 5-2-1980) - where there are many fallen stones (Mr & Mrs A Gray ph 358 550 as it was then)
Medical Notes (Wife)
death cert states she was 82
Notes (Marriage)
Foxhunter to Clark Erriboli at Taolin at marriage
Barbara was from Lochsian
General Notes for Child Donald McKay
with John, pioneered the Cheviot (1865), Manapouri and Mararoa runs
Prominent runholder.
21 Jan 1863: election notice for Donald in the Southland Daily News
Later, a schoolmaster? (Flora's marriage cert.)
Gray's Wallacetown 100 - the Presbyterian Parish (1966) mentions Rev A Stobo baptizing 4 children of Donald's
source for his family info: Ray Matthews and Gaynor Paterson
Herries Beattie's Southern Pioneers 3rd volume p. 149 refers to Donald McKay's farm at Wallacetown
still alive Dec 1880 (G A Hamilton's History of Northern Southland, 1952, pg 63)
1865/67 Electoral Rolls:
District of Mataura:
McKay, Donald Wallacetown qualification - freehold & house hold at New River Wallacetown, part of town reserve, house near Wallacetown, section 1, block 1, New River hundred; sections 1 & 2, block 2, Invercargill hundreds"
and District of Invercargill:
"freehold and household sections 1,2, 20, 21, block 14 town of Invercargill"
General Notes for Child Ann McKay
photos taken by Ray Matthews:
one taken at Inverness, Scotland reads "this is my own card(?), Ann McKay, victim of a broken heart" and in different writing "two grandsons live in Waimatu(?)", shows woman 20-30 yrs of age (Photographer Smith, High st, Inverness)
the second, of a woman 30-40 years "Ann McKay, mother of Mrs Thomson", taken by Wriggles Worth, Wellington.
General Notes for Child John Clark McKay
runholder with his brother Donald (Cheviot 1865), versifier, member of prov council, owner of hotel site cnr Tay & Deveron sts, Invercargill.
Southland became a province 1.4.1861 - 11 members from 6 districts in all. John was one of three from the Waihopai district. Dr Menzies became superintendant and John became a member of his executive (Hall Jones in his Historical Southland)
G A Hamilton's History of Northern Southland, 1952 refers to J C McKay taking over the Manapouri run from a Mr Jackson, in 1859 Clark had 1200 sheep on it. Took his brother (Donald?) into partnership - 17,280 acres, by 1864, 4370 sheep - btw Waiau river and Takatimus (page 55) - yearly lease fee of 12 6/-
-at pg 81 "At Christchurch in 1856 he arranged to take up a cattle run on the Waiau, but met with an accident...engaged two men to drive his cattle 450 miles to the run, and after he had recovered, he followed, walking, it is said, the whole way" - he had cut his head badly while loading a pack horse (Beattie, Southern runs, p. 111)
So both he and Donald pioneered the Cheviot and Manapouri runs - mentioned in Hall-Jones, Historical Southland, 1948 p. 104
General Notes for Child Jane Scobie McKay or Mackay
she was "addicted to the bottle" - Tui Lundie-Robertson. No wonder perhaps, after all, her first husband drowned at around age 30, leaving her to cope with four young children. Her second marriage ended 13 years later, leaving her again with three young children (two had died in infancy), and unprovided for.
and no wonder she reputedly jumped on Dr McCrystal's grave and cursed him, especially as she was aware of an inheritance which had only started to arrive (the 500 bank draft) or had been at his fingertips.
Tui also says she apparently wasn't good with money - no "business head".
heard on Radio Southland's pioneer diary 2 April 1976 (Station 4ZA):
"Mr and Mrs McKay & daughter Jane came out in the late 1840's to Lyttelton on the ship Cressy and were the first settlers in Wallacetown.
A brother J C McKay had a run in Te Anau. George Henry Hunt was drowned coming from Ruapuke island. His widow was given a large property where Smith and Calder McKays stands today. If she remarried it was to revert to her daughter Jean. She did remarry to Dr McCrystal who practiced medicine and surgery in Riverton and Invercargill, before moving to Switzers in 1869. There he died in July 1873"
"Sawpit section 1856-57 in Esk st by present site of H & J Smiths tearooms - title to George Henry Hunt. Front Tay st section taken up by W H Calder at first sale of sections and conveyed to Jane Hunt in 1859, who transferred it to her mother Jane, who sold it to Price and Bulleid in 1879 for 2000. In the latter year a section of Hunts at Wallacetown (J P McGeartys) was also conveyed by his eldest son as heir to Jane Peters and the Est st section was later sold by H Hunt to Peter M Peters, draper"
(source?)
Medical Notes for Child Jane Scobie McKay or Mackay
Husband George Gunn
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Barbara Gunn
Born: 1795 or 1805 - Westmorison, Sutherland, Scotland Christened: Died: Sat 29 Dec 1877 - Invercargill Buried: Mon 31 Dec 1877 - Lot 6, Block 2, Eastern Cemetery, InvercargillSpouse: Roderick McKay (1803- ) Marr: Fri 13 Oct 1820 - Westmorison, Durness, Sutherland
General Notes (Husband)
farmer
Medical Notes for Child Barbara Gunn
death cert states she was 82
Hall
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Hall
Born: Christened: Died: childhood Buried:
Father: George Onslow Hall (1898-1976) Mother: Muriel Udy ( - )
Hall
Husband Hall
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Robert James Hall (1947- ) Mother: Joy Hislop ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Hall
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Hall
Born: Christened: Died: childhood Buried:
Father: George Onslow Hall (1898-1976) Mother: Muriel Udy ( - )
Allen George Hall
Husband Allen George Hall
Born: 31 Oct 1952 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Richard Hall (1901- ) Mother: Helen Tocker ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
TV journalist
Allison Mary Hall
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Allison Mary Hall
Born: 25 Nov 1955 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Richard Hall (1901- ) Mother: Helen Tocker ( - )
George Onslow Hall and Muriel Udy
Husband George Onslow Hall
Born: 4 Oct 1898 - Invercargill Christened: Died: 9 Apr 1976 - Wellington Buried:
Father: Richard Williamson Hall (1856-1932) Mother: Caroline Elizabeth McCrystal (1862-1942)
Marriage: 27 Aug 1926 - Wellington
Wife Muriel Udy
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 F Sylvia Hall
Born: 12 Apr 1927 Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Frederick James Booth ( - ) Marr: 25 Nov 1949 - Wellington
2 F Hall
Born: Christened: Died: childhood Buried:
3 F Hall
Born: Christened: Died: childhood Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
Husband
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Jane Hall
Born: 9 Nov 1956 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Frederick James Booth ( - ) Mother: Sylvia Hall (1927- )
John Richard Hall
Husband John Richard Hall
Born: 27 Mar 1946 - Palmerston North Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Richard Hall (1901- ) Mother: Helen Tocker ( - )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
Farm consultant
Dr Brent Taylor and Moira Elizabeth Hall
Husband Dr Brent Taylor
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage: Jan 1970 - Christchurch
Wife Moira Elizabeth Hall
Born: 30 Mar 1949 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Richard Hall (1901- ) Mother: Helen Tocker ( - )
Richard Williamson Hall and Caroline Elizabeth McCrystal
Husband Richard Williamson Hall
Born: 9 Dec 1856 - Rakaia Christened: Died: 30 Jul 1932 - Wellington Buried: - Karori Cemetery
Father: Thomas Williamson Hall ( - ) Mother: Sarah Young ( - )
Marriage: 2 Oct 1901 - All Saints Church, Invercargill
Wife Caroline Elizabeth McCrystal
Born: 11 Aug 1862 - Invercargill Christened: Died: 3 Dec 1942 - Wellington Buried: - Karori Cemetery
Father: John McCrystal (alias) (1830-1873) Mother: Jane Scobie McKay or Mackay (1834-1918)
Other Spouse: Richard John Matthews (1839-1901) - 27 Sep 1880 - Oamaru, St Lukes Church of England
Children
1 F Tui Sybil Gratwicke Hall
Born: 13 Jul 1897 - Invercargill Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Alistair Lundie-Robertson ( - ) Marr: 20 Sep 1941 - Sydney
2 M George Onslow Hall
Born: 4 Oct 1898 - Invercargill Christened: Died: 9 Apr 1976 - Wellington Buried:Spouse: Muriel Udy ( - ) Marr: 27 Aug 1926 - Wellington
3 M Sydney Williamson Hall
AKA: Bill, Syd Born: 28 Jan 1900 - Invercargill Christened: Died: 12 Jun 1977 - Wellington Buried:Spouse: Never Married
4 M Thomas Richard Hall
Born: 27 Jan 1901 - Invercargill Christened: Died: Buried:Spouse: Helen Tocker ( - ) Marr: 19 Oct 1943 - Invercargill
General Notes (Husband)
solicitor, Invercargill
family moved to Ohakune, Dec 1908 includ Mabel Matthews; later to Eltham, then Wellington
Medical Notes (Husband)
"after years of bad health, and seizures (suddenly and late at night)" - Tui
General Notes (Wife)
deserted by a drunkard husband says Tui referring to Matthews
see Richter's letters - images attached, impt points below:
A 500 bank draft was sent out from England in 1873, and arrived at the time of Dr McCrystal's death. His widow did ultimately receive it. Whether this was part of the Gratwicke Trust cases distribution, or part of his regular remittance, it is not known.
J E Richter composed a song "When the wattles are in bloom" and dedicated it to Caroline McCrystall, sending it to her when Tui Lundie-Robertson was a small girl. He had a great affection for Caroline.
Richter, letter Oct 5 1906 asserts: "Henry Peters was married to Miss Gratwick in 1825 at Arundel...
J E Richter to a Mr Harvey, 12 April 1907:
A neighbour of mine at Wyong named Levett recently took a trip to England, and as he has a brother in London who is a barrister and KC, I gave him a history of the case, to induce his brother to investigate, which he did to a certain extent and the result is briefly as follows:
"William Gratwicke died 1821, leaving the life interest in his landed estate to his grand daughter for her lifetime, and after her, to her husband. They enjoyed the benefits of the property till about 1860 when both died, leaving no children. The property was then to be sold, and turned into money in terms of the will, and divided amonst the next of kin. As the testator could not possibly know who were likely to be the next of kin - they, the next of kin, had to find themselves out to participate in the distribution of the money which amounted to 150,000
The next of kin were found in the grandchildren of Gratwicke's three married sisters, of whom the mother of Dr McCrystall was one of the grandchildren. This mother died about 1850, leaving the Doctor entitled to her share. The case was before the Equity Court in London for a year or two about 1872-75, 500 was sent out to the Doctor as a progress payment of the Court's award in 1873, but he died before it arrived at Switzers, where he was then in practice. Mrs McCrystall however received this money. When this money was sent it was intimated that more was to come, probably 2000-3000. But none came, or any tidings thereof. It is supposed that the rest of the money of the doctor's share was appropriated by his step brothers and sisters, but that has to be ascertained yet. The doctor's mother's maiden name was supposed to be Jupp, and there were some two or more participants in the distribution.
Mrs R Matthews is one of the Doctor's daughters, residing at Appleby, the solicitor's wife, and Mrs John Brown of Appleby, wife of the valuator of the County Council in Southland is another. Both of those husbands are now deceased. They both have large families. Should you have any curiousity or interest in the Gratwicke affair, you will find it in the law books: Heasman v Pearse in L.R. Equity vol 8, 599 also L.R. Equity vol 11, 522 These cases were tried about 1872. There was also another one tried about 1864 - see 1 Eqs 177
The Appleby people are in much excitement over these recent developments, but I fear that too much time has now passed (34 years) for anything to be now got out of that estate. There is no telling though - and money may even now be lying in Chancery for them.
Law reports. Equity cases
C/UK Davis Law Library
Oct 1920, address: White House, Taihape
The Murder Trial
Sources: NZ Herald and Truth newspapers (see images)
Day 1, Tues 8 Feb 1921
Trial opened Supreme Court, Christchurch, Tues 8 Feb 1921 re death of Clarence Edward Wagstaffe (shot), 19 years old of Timaru, Oct 27, 1920.
Reginald Matthews " a short, thick-set youth" [he was 28 years old] was charged with his murder, pleaded not guilty, defended by Mr C S Thomas. Prosecution Mr A T Donnelly, Acting Crown Prosecutor. Jury trial before Mr Justice Herdman.
Wagstaffe lived with his parents in Seaview Terrace, Timaru. A friend (Clifford Knapp, a boarder at the house) and he, saw a prowler that evening, they pursued him, and the prowler "fired three shots at close range"
Mr Donnelly for the Crown opened the case, testimony from Mary Long and Madeline Reed, Bessie Parr, Constable J Smith, Clifford Knapp, Dr Gibson who did the post-mortem. [Much of the evidence appears to have been circumstantial] Matthews had recently been a seaman on the steamer the Waipori under the name Reginald Irving. Had been arrested at Lyttelton on the interislander the Maori, had with him an automatic pistol with which he resisted police. "The man identified by Knapp was about 5 8 and a heavier man. The only resemblance lay in the fact that both had smashed noses" A detective said he had known the step father, who he described as a "determined character, slightly addicted to drink"
Matthews had posted a parcel to his mother at the "White House", Taihape.
During the first day, Mr Thomas "in the course of cross-examination, announced that the defence would be a plea of insanity"
Day 2, Wed 9 Feb
Case for the Crown concluded, and Mr Thomas began for the defence. He said "he hoped to be able to prove conclusively that Matthews was insane"
"He proposed to lead evidence regarding the accused's hereditary history and his personal history. Both were most extraordinary"
The father was a "drunken waster" and "of intemperate sexual habits" and had veneral disease when he married Caroline. "His habits toward his wife and children were almost incredibly inhuman" A brother of the father, a solicitor, was struck off the rol because he stole and embezzled.. "Another was a paralytic, and another was committed as an epileptic to the Avondale asylum at age 25, died there at 42. Another brother called Frederick died in the lunatic asylum [probably the same person].
Thomas said "on the mother's side there was a frightful history" The grandfather was a doctor, a clever man, but "an habitual drunkard, and while in the East formed the habit of taking morphia". He died of a morphia overdose. The grandmother was also "unfortunate", "for a year or two she would be normal, and then she would suddenly take to drink...so bad at times she suffered from delirium tremens." A first cousin Mrs Manson was committed to Seacliff, and another committed suicide, another eccentic, and a "half-sister of the mother was an inmate of a farm institution at Invercargill"
Counsel said "the result of the union between these two unfortunate families was just what one would expect". The mother's eldest daughter had been at Seacliff, and was "a hopeless case" "A brother Clarence, began to show signs of abnormality at 16 or 17" and later got out a gun, shot at a man, and was committed to Seacliff. "He was there for a very short time and then disappeared". An infant of the family aged 5 months was "an idiot child". "He [the accused] was born probably predisposed to insanity"
Dr Crosbie from Sunnyside and Dr McKillop from Seacliff would say "they had not the slightest doubt that Matthews was suffering from paranoic insanity, with sexual and persecutory delusions, as well as being a well-defined epileptic".
The mother, from Taihape, gave evidence, and said her first husband frequently threatened to kill her. He died from drink. "Witness referred to accused's views on sexual matters and ascribed his alleged indecent actions to an internal weakness"
From Truth newspaper:
Headline "Family Record of Feeble-Minded Degenerates"
Reginald Matthews had a record of exhibitionism: Aug 1919, public gardens Ch'Ch by a tree with his clothes down - 9 months jail, but broke goal and got out of the country. In Wellington he exposed himself, and later seen with his braces down, "there was epilepsy in the family, the records of which showed vice, crime and insanity"
Caroline stated her first husband was "very bad", "almost constantly drunk", "he used to get up during his bouts on moonlight nights and go about quoting the Bible", "it was quite common for him to go and live in a hotel, leaving her with nothing in the house. She had had thirteen children in all. At times he would be maudlin and childish; at other times he would be violent. He had no sense of responsibility. He frequently struck her. Shortly before accused was born she had a separation order against her husband. He was in the habit of coming round to the house and frightening her. He was of abnormal sexual habits. He died in the hospital from the effects of drink. She was seventeen when she got married. It was not a love match. At the time of the marriage he had not properly recovered from a veneral disease, which she caught necessiating medical attention. . . Her father was Dr McChrystall who took morphia. He died at 50, found dead in his bed...an overdose of morphia. Her mother was addicted to drink. A cousin, Mrs Manson was committed to an asylum after the birth of a child. Another cousin, Donald Barclay became abnormal after getting a kick from a horse, and committed suicide. Another female cousin was eccentric and simple. In her own family witness had a daughter by Matthews who was in Seacliff Mental Hospital. A son Clarence Percival became abnormal after having scarlet fever at 16. He was sent to the asylum. Both the latter had been clever at school. Harold, the eldest boy, and and Eric and Clarence were subject to fits. She had a child who died when five months old which was malformed in the face. The doctor said it was an idiot and it was a good thing it died"
"...She remembered Reginald having a dog [which died]...soon after that he left home and she did not see him for two years...he was somewhat peculiar after coming out of goal..excitable and talked on subjects men don't usually discuss with their mothers...sex matters and girls...Her second husband was very strict with her boys - too much so, she thought. He was too ready to hit them on the head...there was nothing the matter with the children born of the second marriage. Matthews never treated her as a sane man would treat his wife...Reginald had been the kindest of boys...he complained of pains in his head...his head had been hurt in a railway accident having fallen from a train in America...Matthew Robertson, second officer of the Waipori...said Reginald was a good worker...Charles William Harvey, a Christchurch accountant said that as a youth of 12 he had often visited the Matthews home and found them without food. The father was reading the Bible while the family starved. Mrs Matthews had to seek the protection of the police many a time"
"Dr Arthur Crosbie, superintendant of Sunnyside Mental Hospital, examined by Mr Thomas said he considered Matthews to be insane, because he suffered from delusions...Matthews believed he was capable of reforming sexual and social conventions. ...He was thoroughly dissatisfied with the usual restraints in regard to intercourse between the two sexes, or as he called it, false prudery and mother grundyism...he advocated sterpiculture - race improvement on scientific lines...Matthews said that under the surface, the police had a set on him on account of his radical views and because he was opposed to the Government...[he advocated] licensed houses for intercourse...
Dr McKillop from Seacliff spoke about Ethel Bullman, who had been admitted there Jul 14 1911 and discharged in October. Readmitted June 1920 with "acute mania" He had just recently examined her again, there was no prospect of her recovery. Clarence had neen admitted Mar 1909 with "semi-stupor", he tried to shoot someone and to hang himself. He was dull, taciturn, confused.
Drs Gribben and Gray disputed that he was insane.
Matthews was noted as having a hesitancy in speech. He apperars to have have been in goal in America, and suspected of being a "IWW man" [Intl Workers of the World], and connected with "dope fiends"[cocaine]
On Friday 11 Feb, Thomas gave his closing address to the jury, firstly indicating that the evidence was circumstantial only - Matthews bullets had a small scratch, absent from the deceased's bullet. "This was a case which had aroused a great amount of prejudice against prisoner". It was show night in Timaru and consequently "that sort of crowd"; it had been a moonlight night, yet Knapp did not pick the accused. Matthews was a "runt of a man". If they did find him guilty, they must find him insane, "born of diseased parents"
"...a person burdened by hereditary strain was liable to bend under stress." The medical testimony was contradictory, it was up to the jury to decide, "the accused was a mental leper and as long as he was allowed at liberty would be a menace to the community" [note, this is the defence speaking!!!]
Sat Feb 12: Crown address to jury, in summing up, Mr Donnelly for the Crown said, "the whole case of insanity had been broken and discredited..", it was "a plain ordinary case of murder..." Judge summed up, clearly inferring a guilty but sane verdict, the judge noted that Matthews had had three seaman's discharges, all showing he was a good and capable seaman, on the Waipori he had been promoted from able seaman to leading seaman. The jury retired for an hour, guilty and sane, sentence imposed of death by hanging.
The Truth of 26 Feb 1921 reported that Mr Thomas had asked the Minister for Justice to have a further examination made into Matthews mental state, and a petition had been got up in Invercargill seeking a reprieve. Truth called for an abolition of the death penalty.
The Truth of 5 March reported a 1,000 plus public meeting in Christchurch which urged a further re-examination of his mental state; the reprieve petition was being circulated widely. Said Mr D G Sullivan MP "no sane man fighting for his life would laugh while his counsel was addressing the jury", Sullivan drew a harrowing picture of the mother.."Her life had been a tragedy..."
Truth of 12 March reported that the Governor General (Lord Jellicoe) had commuted the death sentence to imprisonment for life, after Cabinet had commissioned another examination, by Drs Hay and Hassall. Both saw him over 5 days at Paparua prison and judged him insane. The Minister of Justice, Mr E P Lee commented that in his opinion, "Matthews will go completely insane and die in comparatively a few years"
General Notes for Child Tui Sybil Gratwicke Hall
bad bronchitis much of her life apart from when in Australia
Auckland, 1932
lived in Warwick, Queensland
General Notes for Child George Onslow Hall
accountant
General Notes for Child Sydney Williamson Hall
Surveyor
12 Dunns Rd, Silverstream
General Notes for Child Thomas Richard Hall
telegraph engineer, Palmerston North
Robert James Hall and Joy Hislop
Husband Robert James Hall
Born: 12 Feb 1947 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Thomas Richard Hall (1901- ) Mother: Helen Tocker ( - )
Marriage: 16 Aug 1971
Wife Joy Hislop
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Children
1 U Hall
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
General Notes (Husband)
Husband Stephen Hall
Born: 6 Mar 1963 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Frederick James Booth ( - ) Mother: Sylvia Hall (1927- )
Marriage:
Wife
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:
Antony P Quirk and Susan Hall
Husband Antony P Quirk
Born: Christened: Died: Buried:Marriage:
Wife Susan Hall
Born: 6 Jun 1951 Christened: Died: Buried:
Father: Frederick James Booth ( - ) Mother: Sylvia Hall (1927- )
1 Miller, F. W. G. (Frederick Walter Gascoyne), 1904, History of Waikaia ([Waikaia] Waikaia Historical Committee, [1966]).
2 Weatherall, J.T., Waikaia : the first 50 years (manuscript 927, Hocken Library, Univ of Otago, dd Mr E Thompson, 259 Main st, Gore (son-in-law) - 4th copy was typed up 1971).
3
(reprinted in 1909 and 1931 from the Waimea Plains Review of 1893 articles by an old identity, unidentified, written in 1867, possibly Colin Robertson or James C Cosgrove.
details:
Old Switzers, romance of mining, genesis of the district: October 18 1909 issue
Life in the 60's, October 25 1909 issue, & continued in November 1 issue
Commissioner's Hill, November 8 1909 issue
Lost on the Dome, November 15 1909 issue, continued in November 22 issue
Supplies in the 60's, November 29 1909 issue
Incidents in December 6 and 20 1909 issues
note: may be more in series. These articles need further researching
).
4 Vera Tuffery.
5 Eileen MacKay.
6 (Has a scrapbook of births, deaths, etc).
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