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rangoon66stang
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how to do a grenada brake swap?????

my 66 with a 302 has drums all around. i just want to put discs on the front. it is originally a 289 v8 car. so how easy is the swap. do i just take the front end off a grenada and put it in the 66? is that all there is to it. or is it more complicated than that? also what kind of rear end would you advise to put on my car. it has a 8 inch on it now. don't know what the gears are though. i'm gonna basically use the car just to cruise around in, but i might get on it every now and then when i see a ricer.do i need any kind of monte carlo or export brace for this car with the 302 in it? thanks.

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Dave_C
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97 Undercover Dragster, 557 BBF


Registered: September 1999
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The brake swap mainly consists of swapping the spindles out. The ones from the Granada bolt on to your control arms. You then use the Granada calipers, rotors and tie rod ends. On a 65-66 you have to do a minor brake line move. Nothing major. You also need a new master cylinder for disk brakes.

There are several pages onthe web about the swap. Here is one:
http://www.oocities.org/MotorCity/...66/granada.html

Later,

David Cole

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rangoon66stang
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thanks, you helped me out a lot there, but what year granada will work with a 66 mustang?

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Dave_C
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97 Undercover Dragster, 557 BBF


Registered: September 1999
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The Granda was made from 75-82. There are V-8 and 6 cyl cars. The V-8's have bigger brakes than the 6 cyl. 11" vs 10 1/4", so get a V-8 car if possible. Mercury Monarch will also work, it's the same car with different trim.

Oh yeah, one gotcha: the hubs are larger diameter than a Mustang. A stock steel wheel from a 65-66 (67-up is ok) won't fit over the hub (just barely won't fit). Aftermarket wheels work fine, or you can have the Granada hubs turned down at a machine shop for ~$25 each.

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David Cole

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rangoon66stang
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i'm going to put styled steel wheels on my 66. so what you are saying if i buy the repops fromthe catalogs they will fit or are you talking bout a whole different rim ? thanks for the info. i wonder why nobody else ever mentioned the hub being too big on the grenada? never been told bout the monarch neither. thanks.

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Dave_C
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Registered: September 1999
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The syled steel wheels will not fit the Granada hub. The hole inthe center of the wheel is too small. Aftermarket (ie.. mag wheels) will fit.

But you can take the Granda hub/rotor to any machine shop. They can put it in a lathe and turn it to the correct diameter in a few minutes. Minor machine work.

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David Cole

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rangoon66stang
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thanks for the help. do u know what a fair price for a granada or monarch part out of a junkyard will run?

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I paid $100 for my spindles from a 78 Granada.

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darkhorse70
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Mustangs Plus catalog contains an article describing in detail what you need. They also carry most of the special parts you will need, such as hard brake lines to reroute the hoses, etc.

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66 BLAKE 96
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Thumbs up

I picked up my Granada brakes and spindles for $50.

Best thing I've done to my car so far. I didn't realize how scary the all drum set-up was until I did this swap.

My friend did the same swap and had the rotors machined for the styled steel wheels, it was not very expensive, and the SS wheels fit great now.

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I paid $100 for spindles, calipers (cores), rotors (which I had turned and use) from a '79 Granada with a 6 cyl in it. The rotors are 11" so are the large ones, maybe a PO changed them - I dont know.

Used a master cyl from a '76 Maverick.

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rangoon66stang
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i wanted to use a double master cyl. what cars out there can i get one of those off of. or am i better off to buy a new one. i don't know the price of them. why would people spend 800.00 for a disc conversion kit from a catalog. can't u rebuild the set from a grenada and make them look new, or are people trying to stay correct.

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66 BLAKE 96
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Yes get a dual Master cyl. Get the Maverick one that FL has.
Yes, it should definately be new/rebuilt. They aren't very expensive at all. Just go to your local parts store.
Its hard to explain how people spend their money.
I guess if I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy a new brand new brake setup from Stainless Steel Brakes, but since I don't, the Granada's work great.

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rangoon66stang
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al i have to say is thank god i found this site. it has helped me out a ton. most message boards have goofy asses in there just joking around and calling people names and ****. that's cool now and then but u guys and girls on here take this seriously and i appreciate that. it is very helpful. i think i know what i need to know on the grenada brake swap. thanks a lot. dave c told me a monarch would work also. is this also true. never heard of that before.

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rangoon66stang
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i just thought of something. it's going to probably be hard to find a grenada with all the mustang owners picking clean the junkyards and classified ads. i hope not.

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66 BLAKE 96
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quote:
Originally posted by rangoon66stang
al i have to say is thank god i found this site. it has helped me out a ton. most message boards have goofy asses in there just joking around and calling people names and ****. that's cool now and then but u guys and girls on here take this seriously and i appreciate that. it is very helpful. i think i know what i need to know on the grenada brake swap. thanks a lot. dave c told me a monarch would work also. is this also true. never heard of that before.


Thats exactly why I like to think of this place as the most friendly (and useful) forum on the 'net

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Originally posted by rangoon66stang
i just thought of something. it's going to probably be hard to find a grenada with all the mustang owners picking clean the junkyards and classified ads. i hope not.


You would think so, but they must've made a hell of alot of Granadas, because it was easy to find mine.
I just called a few junkyards, went there, found the car to make sure the parts were usable, then this guy in a Mad Max lookin 70's T-bird with an oxy aceteline (sp) torch mounted in it, cut the upper and lower control arms in half and handed me the entire front brakes.

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rangoon66stang
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cool, maybe this weekend i'll venture out there and try to find something. thanks.

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66 BLAKE 96
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quote:
Originally posted by rangoon66stang
thanks.


You are very welcome, but there is a catch.

You have to promise, that when you have 10 years or so worth of experience with these wonderful old cars, you will help out newbies and answer their questions.

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rangoon66stang
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that's not a problem, i believe i have already helped out a few. what i learn from here i will pass on to others. thanks.

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corpse
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quote:
Originally posted by rangoon66stang
that's not a problem, i believe i have already helped out a few. what i learn from here i will pass on to others. thanks.


others? No, you can't help "others" as in "others" outside of StangNet. See, we only help fellow stangnet members, and you are expected to do the same only!!! hehe j/k of corpse

Speaking of brakes.. I don't know if this is a mute point or not - but now my '69 has front disc brakes, and my question is if there's a difference between "stock" 69 disc brakes vs. the Granada setup. Maybe they are the same, but I dunno. I never gave it much thought. But I'm about to upgrade my front brakes with a Wilwood setup, and want to make sure I don't have any problems. For the front I'm going to end up buying their Ford kit that's used (Mustang, 1965 - 1969 (11.75” rotor) 140-4304-B) - I'm asusming this is what I need - but is it possible for this NOT to work as a result of a Granada conversion? How can I tell which I got.

Once I do the conversion that means I'll have 2 brand new unused rotors (never been mounted) for sale - maybe someone is local and wants to buy them?? I doubt that though as I don't think there's ANY 69/70 owners within a 15 mile radius of where I live.

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if anyone has a question here, if i have the answer, i will say so.this is the only stang site i deal with. but if my neighbor buys a classic stang and has some questions, i'm sorry but i'm going to have to go outside the realm and tell him what he needs to know. sorry! hehe.

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Dave_C
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quote:
Originally posted by corpse

But I'm about to upgrade my front brakes with a Wilwood setup, and want to make sure I don't have any problems. For the front I'm going to end up buying their Ford kit that's used (Mustang, 1965 - 1969 (11.75” rotor) 140-4304-B) - I'm asusming this is what I need - but is it possible for this NOT to work as a result of a Granada conversion? How can I tell which I got.



Not sure on the Granada/Mustang spindle differeneces if any. I was also looking at the Wilwood setup for my 69. Except I wanted the medium duty (lighter steel rotor, but same hub and caliper as what you want) since mine is now a race only car. I said was because I have seen several negative comments about Wilwood on a couple of racing sites. Main complaints were warping rotors and pads wearing out too fast. I also read alot of good comments on Aerospace Components brakes. No problems with warpage, stop the same with a 1" smaller rotor and pads last longer. I also think they look better. The calipers are polished billet. The Pro Street Kit (what you need) is a little more at $675, but I think they are worth it. I plan on their Heavy Duty drag kit. They quoted my a price of $525 over the phone vs $551 on their web site. The equivalent Wilwood for ine is $512. You might get a better price than the $675 if you call.

Check them out:
Their Pro Street kit:
http://www.aerospacecomponents.com/page7a.htm#p7a
The rest of their stuff:
http://www.aerospacecomponents.com/catalog.htm#top

Later,

David Cole

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cougar_68
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Do any of you know if spindles from a '74 maverick will work?

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Judas
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Do any of you know if spindles from a '74 maverick will work?
They should. When I was working for an autoparts retailer I looked up part #'s all the time when I was doing my disc brake changeout. 74/75 Granada and Mavericks used the same outer tie rods and spindles as far as I could find out. I'd call a local parts store and have them check the part numbers between the years and models.

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tacoy
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Dave, Do you think they are still structurally safe? I bought some 15 x 7 styled steel wheels and it sures look like a lot have to be shaved off for them to fit.

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