'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

6-cyl to v8 swap... help?!

Has anyone here done the 6cyl to v8 swap with a late 60's stang? How easy is it? Is it worth the money/effort?

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66 Mustang Resto-Mod


Registered: June 2001
Location: So. Cal., U.S.A.

I did it, as well as others on here, and it is A LOT OF WORK. Unless you have a certain attachment to the car, it would be easier to buy a V8 car. There's more to it than just swapin the motor. Susp, steering, etc...

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WIP '68 Fastback Hotrod


Registered: July 2001
Location: You mean on this planet?

You know my whole take on the imfamous swap is this. If your going restomod and putting in a modified drivetrain, suspension, brakes, etc then starting with a 6 cyl car is not much different cost wise then an 8 cyl. Especially if the car is in decent shape and the fact that 6cyl cars can be bought for less money to begin with. Or...if the car is in such bad shape that everything is going to have to be replaced anyways. Bottom line...if the car is in decent shape drivtrain/suspension wise then its not worth it, unless you plan on going modified.

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'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

Thanks! :)

Heh heh, well to tellt he truth, I'm not the one considering the swap... although I'd be involved in the process. My bf owns an '88 LX 5.0, and although they go real good, I prefer the style of the older generation, although once again to be honest I'd prefer to go Chevy, LOL! We both know that it involves a lot of work, like you both said, there is more to a swap then just an engine,and we're well aware of that heh heh... if only it were that easy! He's really wants to sell it and that was one option. Thanks you boys!
Do you both still own your cars, and if so, may I see a pic!?
Mmmmmmmm classic Mustangs....
Thanks again!

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1967 Mustang Fastback


Registered: July 2000
Location: Orange Park , Fl

do it ..Baby!!

Piece of cake...?..
Get the V8 mounts..and make it happen...you'll end up..?... with a light weight Mustang, that will kick some butt...?..

If you are a resto kinda girl...then the changing of all the other stuff...spindles to 5 lug, rear end...?.., springs...etc can be a real bummer!! But when your done....you 'll need to keep a supply of 1/2 inch wrenches around. You know...to give to the Chevy Boys/Girls to bolt their doors back on!!! LOL

I'm doing one for my wife..and when I finish fixing all the holes...maybe it will move from the side of the house!! She isnt into resto...just likes the style, and performance!!

Just me.....................

Thumper

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'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

That's really kewl that U're doing that for your wife... he he I like resto and all... we (me and my bf, being his car and all) just wanted to know if anyone's done it yet and have any complaints, tips, advice, just to help us make a decission.
I think my BF will like your post... it sounds more promissing than the other two... I really like classic mustangs and I think it would be so unique and awesome to have a classic with a 302... MmmmmMMMMmmm... not sure what he's going to do however, he just put his stang in the paper... not sure if he'll even buy a Ford, LOL, he 's been looking at a '68 Firebird, and of course I like it... I'm a chevy gal and always will be!

But thanks for your posts you guys, they've helped tonnes!

Good luck with your stang thumper... it looks very promissing! If U finish it and I'm around, let me know, or let me know if U have any more tips/advice as you progress!

Thanks again!

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64 1/2 convertible: "stock as a rock"


Registered: May 2000
Location: Tacoma, WA USA

With "dew" respect to Thumper, I believe he is encouraging you by understating the work involved in the six to V-8 conversion. The six was indeed a lighter car designed around different perameters than a V-8. To simply "drop in a V-8" without preparing the car's brakes, driveline and suspension is to create a car that is dangerous because it won't stop or handle anywhere near to the expectations you'll have of it. You may "like" the suggestion that only the "resto" crowd would do the proper conversion but I assure you that you'll be disappointed if you take the "easy" route.

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69' Convertible, 99' 35th Anniversary


Registered: August 2000
Location: Currently: Exeter NH, Formerly: TX, MA, and a Native Rhode Islander

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Originally posted by: lady 5.0
he 's been looking at a '68 Firebird, and of course I like it... I'm a chevy gal and always will be!

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Chevy Girl eh? Than shouldn't you prefer a Camaro? Or do you go both ways............and like Pontiac's too I mean?

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'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

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Originally posted by Pakrat


Chevy Girl eh? Than shouldn't you prefer a Camaro? Or do you go both ways............and like Pontiac's too I mean?

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Well, I like Ford, but I'm a true Chevy girl at heart... I like everything... except for most imports and Dodge... don't like dodge...
I do prefer the Camaro... and I do like Pontiacs... they're all GMC's... doesn't matter...

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You may "like" the suggestion that only the "resto" crowd would do the proper conversion but I assure you that you'll be disappointed if you take the "easy" route.

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I totally understand that there is more involved, LOL... I'm not stupid! I understand that the components that are used to handle the 6 won't handle the 8, and that it would involve changing all these things...
I liked thumper's response because it was more possitive and he said he was doing the swap and he made it sound like the work would be worth it, where as everyone else kinda said not to do it...
I don't know... it's not my car anyways, LOL... but don't worry, I understand it's not easy and that you can't just plunk a larger engine into it... heh I feel like I've said this all before... oh wait I did like 4 messages ago... LOL!
ANYWAYS, I just wanted some feedback from people who have done it to see if it would be worth the extra effort!

Thanks everyone!
I appreciate each and every comment, they've been really helpful!
(I think we'll get a Chevy! J/J)

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66 Mustang Resto-Mod


Registered: June 2001
Location: So. Cal., U.S.A.

I didn't mean to sound 'negative' I just wanted you to know what was involved. I have attached a pic of my car and you can see more at my website if you wish (Just click on the 2MFF in my signature)

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Something up my sleeve
In a 66 coupe

338.9 RWHP, 335.5 RWTQ

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68 Dodge Charger R/T - Going from Semi Drag Car to Resto
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former owner of a 67-427 fastback


Registered: September 2000
Location: south louisiana

she was talking about a LATE 60s car , you don't have the problem of swapping the suspension on a 67-70 that you have on the 65-66s , aside from putting in heavier springs , and then you will only be doing that if you're putting in something bigger than a small block

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66 Mustang Resto-Mod


Registered: June 2001
Location: So. Cal., U.S.A.

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Originally posted by D.Hearne
she was talking about a LATE 60s car , you don't have the problem of swapping the suspension on a 67-70 that you have on the 65-66s , aside from putting in heavier springs , and then you will only be doing that if you're putting in something bigger than a small block

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Sorry, she didn't specify year and I didn't know a 66 was considered EARLY 60's. She did ask to see a pic after my first post, so I posted one. I was just trying to help

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Something up my sleeve
In a 66 coupe

338.9 RWHP, 335.5 RWTQ

2MFF Fab Shop www.2mfffabshop.com

03 Ford Expedition - Stock
68 Dodge Charger R/T - Going from Semi Drag Car to Resto
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former owner of a 67-427 fastback


Registered: September 2000
Location: south louisiana

well although there technically no early 60s mustangs I guess you could say the 64 1/2 to 66s could be the early ones and the others would be the late 60s ones , but I think she was talking about a 69 which is as late 60s as you could get. then again I was looking at a local want ads paper yesterday and there was a 55 mustang listed and it even sported a genuine " welded rock" carb. ( must be a special flintstones edition LOL)

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'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

Heh heh, flintstones, LOL!

Actually, you've both been a real help, and don't worry about sounding negative...

Ummmmm... what I really meant when I posted was 64(1/2) to 69... so U're both right! I shoulda been more clear... I said late cuz like you said there are no early ones, LOL! Sorry!

Hearne, are you saying that so long as you have a 67-69 that you don't have to swap suspension at all? Or just that it would be easier to swap then 64-66? Any details like that are great guys... and I appreciate all the help! I know that there's a lot of swapping to make everything compatible... but things like that help a lot!

I really like your stang, GP001... thanks for the pics, and thanks for your help!

Any more tips peoples?
Thanks so much!

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1965 Mustang, 1982 Mustang


Registered: February 2001
Location: Connecticut

gawd i hate ssschevys

if you like chevys so much go find the camaronet website...oh thats right there isn't one because chevys are crap and no one wants anyone to know that they own one. whew now that we got that out of the way. all mustangs were meant to have V8's it's just that the bean counters at ford thought it best to put cheaper 6cyl cars on the market so that 30 years later people like us can correct fords mistakes by converting 6cyl cars to v8's i would really suggest looking at the 67 to 69 cars because less work will need to be done in order to beef up the car to handle the added power and weight of the v8 drivetrain. 64 1/2 to 66 require a little more and you would probably want a parts car to provide all the little brackets and such. it is by no means cheap or easy, but the one thing you must consider is whether or not you plan on selling the car for a profit or if you just want a cool ride to tool around in. if its the latter than by all means go for it. oh and by the way i only hate chevys so much because my dad has a 57belair street rod and a 74 vette that i am always fixing and that i did ALL the customizing work on...no respect.
p.s. if you put a ford302 in a 69 camaro it might almost be worth something...well at least the value of the 302 anyway. ha!!

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1986 5.0 LX Hatchback


Registered: January 2000
Location: wcfords.com is gay

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Originally posted by D.Hearne
and there was a 55 mustang listed

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Can a V8 67-69 mustang be used as a donar car for a 66 mustang?

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'66 Coupe- 200 I6 '01 Jetta TDI


Registered: December 1999
Location: Small Town Oklahoma

BigDT: to some extent... yes. I got my spindles off a '67 and i believe that any year spindle will work, just make sure you get the inner tie-rods to match whatever spindle you get. The engine and tranny will work for any swap. You'll still need the 66 engine mounts though. Radiator is different so count that out... as is the steering linkage. I would reccomend new springs and steering components anyways though... no sense replacing old stuff with more old stuff. The rear end is wider.. so you'll have to be careful with your backspacing, or have it shortened. I'm not sure about the throttle and tranny linkage though... I'm sure there is some other stuff i havent mentioned

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Registered: August 2001
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Thank you for your response DrkPhanstm, I have a 68 coupe that I will use whatever I can from it for my conversion.

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'91 Chevy S10


Registered: September 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

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if you like chevys so much go find the camaronet website

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First of all, thank you for your response...
Second of all, don't be so hard on me! I never said I hate Fords, I am quite fond of Mustangs, and furthermore, there ARE Camaro forums like this one that I've been to, and I'm sure they're just as damn proud of their cars as you are... I don't think it's cool at all to rag on me cuz I like Chevy's and I'm in a Stang chat... like I said above I like lots of different things...
Anyways, If we were to get an old stang adn so the swap (not to sell, but because they're beautiful, old cars that are sweet to ride in), I think for sure now we would get a 67-69, bacause like more than one of you have said, there would be less trouble... although still difficult.
I'm not sure if this thread will even be of any use to me anymore, LOL, I hope that it has helped somebody else, but if not I've learne a few tihngs... his car that he was going to sell (to possibly buy an older mustang or a chevy) was just brioken into like 3 nights ago, an dI think due to the damage and the money that the insurance company will be putting into it, I think he's just gonna keep his 88 5.0... we looked at that Firebird again that I mentioned, but realized it wasn't as great as we thought, it had apparently been in an accident or two, because it was clear that the fenders and stuff were pounded back out, there were creases all down the side... really nasty!
Well... I hope he'll still be interested in an older stang after we deal with the break in... I'd like for us to have both a nice old Chevy and a nice old Ford in our Garage, LOL, and I'm already saving for the chevy! I'd also like to help with the transfer if that would be the route he would choose... I think it would be a fun project and would definitely provide us with something we could really be proud of when we finished! Hmmmm... maybe he'll just buy a second stang! I like that option!
We'll see, I'll keep you updated in case anyone gives a poop!
Thanks boys!

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1965 mustang coupe


Registered: December 2001
Location: PIMP JUICE

swapper thread

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1967 Mustang Coupe


Registered: July 2002
Location: New Hampshire

Lady 5.0

To give you an idea how much work is involed Here are a couple of links of things that are HIGHLY reccomended in doing when swapping a 6 with an 8

65-66 stangs
http://www.oocities.org/MotorCity/...pecial/6to8.htm


67-68 stangs
http://www.oocities.org/MotorCity/...al/67I6tov8.htm

I myself started to undergo the swap, end result.... Decided to sell the car and bought one with an 8 already in it. Which was better anyways because it was a texas car with no rot

As for it being unique for having a 302 in a 67, well I don't know how unique it would be, probably about as unique as the delux hood lights in the 67

Personally I am in the middle of swapping 302's in my new car, the new 302 has some nicely rebuilt 351 windsor heads on it

The early 65-66-67 cars I believe had 289's which in most cases is the same as the 302. Early 302 that is. Not the 5.0
I think the 302 came out in 68. can anyone confirm that.

For your viewing pleasure. My buddies newly rebuilt 350 pushing about 400 horse after rebuild. that goes into his 67 camaro with 4 speed muncie and 4.11 rear end. Can you say balls to the wall?


Here is the old 302 in my new stang.

Here is the new one, finishing it up tomorrow.

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1971 Mach 1 351c


Registered: June 2002
Location: Springfield, MO

She's gone dude. Lots of old thread dredged up. Check out Blakes thread explaining it.

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1967 Mustang Coupe


Registered: July 2002
Location: New Hampshire

oh wow no kidding.
I'll check itout

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former owner of a 67-427 fastback


Registered: September 2000
Location: south louisiana

Gawd, I thought this thread died a year ago.

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