I'm writing a story to make this work. And my story explains where the holodecks go by Kirk's show and why we never see the cloaking device until the Romulans get it in Kirk's show.

In my story, the Zerileans go after meeting Archer and the Klingons to outer space. Their engin fails again so they hitch another warp ride from another spaceship they find. This spaceship discovers them in their tail like Archer did. It turns out these aliens are ROMULANS!!! They attack the Zerelians and kill them. They seeze their ship and take their cloaking device. The Romulans decide to spy on the Zerelians to see what else they have. They see the Zerelians have started trading with the Klingons and the Romulans are afraid the Klingons are going to get cloaks too. The Rommies want to keep the only cloaks in space.

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Originally posted by MajorBarcalow:
I watched Unexpected again. This was a rerun and I saw it on the first time when it was one. In this episode, they show a race called the Zerilians and they had cloaking devices and they had holodecks. This is very stupid since this show is supposed to be a hundred years before Kirk's show where we see holodecks first and then on next gen, picard has the first holodeck on his ship. This is stupid but that's how they wrote the show.

I'm writing a story to make this work. And my story explains where the holodecks go by Kirk's show and why we never see the cloaking device until the Romulans get it in Kirk's show.

In my story, the Zerileans go after meeting Archer and the Klingons to outer space. Their engin fails again so they hitch another warp ride from another spaceship they find. This spaceship discovers them in their tail like Archer did. It turns out these aliens are ROMULANS!!! They attack the Zerelians and kill them. They seeze their ship and take their cloaking device. The Romulans decide to spy on the Zerelians to see what else they have. They see the Zerelians have started trading with the Klingons and the Romulans are afraid the Klingons are going to get cloaks too. The Rommies want to keep the only cloaks in space.

A group of centureans sneak onto a Zerelian trade ship and poison the new holodecks they were going to ship to the Klingons. When the klingons get poisoned they start a war with the Zerelieans. They also scrap ALL of their holodecks since they think they're holes to Stovakor run by Kayless. The Zerelieans lose the war with the Klingons. They get sabotaged by cloaked Romulans so they can't win. The Klingons end up slautering the whole race and then there's no one left. The Romulans send a cloaked bomb to the Zerelian homeworld where it explodes the planet and it blows up. The Klingons get the credit for killing all the Zerelians and the Federation hates them for that and then Archer swears to get revenge on all klingons for killing his frienmds the Zerellians. The romulans remain in the shadows and stay the only ones with cloaks. The cloaks however have the poison from the holodecks which the Romulans mistakanly transmitted there. So they have to shelf the cloaks untill they work out a cure for the poison. Maybe in a hundred years....(Kirk's show!!!)

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But B&B said they were going to be careful of this kind of thing, yet here we are. That is BTW a good way to explain it, but did we really need this in the first place. Does Enterprise need so much from TNG Era just to survive, cause B&B and his friends here assured us that we would not have this sort of thing.

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Originally posted by Worf999:
There's nothing wrong with throwing sme future element into a prequel setting. It's quite possible for aliens in this era to have tech as advanced as 24th century Federation tech. In fact it would be wrong to [b]not include it. There must be aliens more advanced out there.[/B]

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It's minor and nitpicky, but I wished they had not used a cloak in Enterprise or Holodecks or Time Travel.

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Originally posted by MajorBarcalow:
I watched Unexpected again. This was a rerun and I saw it on the first time when it was one. In this episode, they show a race called the Zerilians and they had cloaking devices and they had holodecks. This is very stupid since this show is supposed to be a hundred years before Kirk's show where we see holodecks first and then on next gen, picard has the first holodeck on his ship. This is stupid but that's how they wrote the show.

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Just because the Zerilians have it doesn't mean that Federation ship need to carry them.

Also, just because they didn't have them on the ship in TOS doesn't mean they weren't around elsewhere.

This is another case of omission not being negation. In other words, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. (no cloaking jokes please!)

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...I'm writing a story to make this work....

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Originally posted by armalyte:
Am I detecting a small hint of sarcasm in the opening post?

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Who can tell anymore? Sarcasm often sounds like crusading.

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Originally posted by MajorBarcalow:
I watched Unexpected again. This was a rerun and I saw it on the first time when it was one. In this episode, they show a race called the Zerilians and they had cloaking devices and they had holodecks. This is very stupid since this show is supposed to be a hundred years before Kirk's show where we see holodecks first and then on next gen, picard has the first holodeck on his ship. This is stupid but that's how they wrote the show.

I'm writing a story to make this work. And my story explains where the holodecks go by story, the Zerileans go after meeting Archer and the Klingons to outer space. Their engin fails again so they hitch another warp ride from another spaceship they find. This spaceship discovers them in their tail like Archer did. It turns out these aliens are ROMULANS!!! They attack the Zerelians and kill them. They seeze their ship and take their cloaking device. The Romulans decide to spy on the Zerelians to see what else they have. They see the Zerelians have started trading with the Klingons and the Romulans are afraid the Klingons are going to get cloaks too. The Rommies want to keep the only cloaks in space.

A group of centureans sneak onto a Zerelian trade ship and poison the new holodecks they were going to ship to the Klingons. When the klingons get poisoned they start a war with the Zerelieans. They also scrap ALL of their holodecks since they think they're holes to Stovakor run by Kayless. The Zerelieans lose the war with the Klingons. They get sabotaged by cloaked Romulans so they can't win. The Klingons end up slautering the whole race and then there's no one left. The Romulans send a cloaked bomb to the Zerelian homeworld where it explodes the planet and it blows up. The Klingons get the credit for killing all the Zerelians and the Federation hates them for that and then Archer swears to get revenge on all klingons for killing his frienmds the Zerellians. The romulans remain in the shadows and stay the only ones with cloaks. The cloaks however have the poison from the holodecks which the Romulans mistakanly transmitted there. So they have to shelf the cloaks untill they work out a cure for the poison. Maybe in a hundred years....(Kirk's show!!!)

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And then the Romulans sneak on board the Enterprise and infiltrate Star Fleet Command in order to erase all reports Archer and co made about the stealth tech and holodecks, and get onto Earth to kill all the friends and relatives of Archer's crew, as they might have mentioned it to them in personal correspondance, then of course, these people may have mentioned it to others, so you have to kill all their friends......

Sorry, that's just plain garbage. Please explain how the Romulans could get to the alien's homeworld, as after all at this time according to "canon" they have no warp drive? Surely they'd have stolen the warp drive rather than the holodeck and stealth tech? And the Romulans have invented a bomb capable of destroying a whole planet, and don't rule the entire Alpha Quadrant by the time of TOS? Oh wait, maybe they accidentally poisoned it, so shelved it until they could develope an antidote.

Why do you have to come up with suh a contrived way of explaining something that hasn't violated canon anyway? There have been many threads saying that it may have not been a cloaking device, just something with similar properties. The holodeck was also nowhere near as advanced as that used on the Enterprise. And, why couldn't the Federation have developed holodecks long before TOS, but just had them on starbases and recreational planets, with them regarded as a "luxury" on a starship, where the equipment would be better used in other ways?

Did WWI ships have cinemas? But, they were around, so why weren't they on them?

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