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My Guest Book - Entries submitted February 2000 - September 2001

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September 4, 2001
Didier Parot, France
Message:
Hello, I have just discovered your site about the Vautour and I must say I am really impressed, altough I have not had the time yet to read it all.
I am one of the sons of Jean Charles Parot, who headed the design of the Vautour, but I don't know all about it because my father didn't used to speak about his work when at home...
Best regards,
Didier Parot. (France)

September 1st, 2001
From: Colonel (ret.) Yoash Chatto-Tsiddon
Message: To Zvi "Tour de Force-Vautour"
Dear Zvi, Wonderful site! Congratulations,
Yoash

July 18, 2001
From: Alain Crosnier, France {author of the "S.O. 4050 Vautour"}
Email:[ alain ]
Message:
1. Hello,I signed your guestbook last night just before discovering your 'out of this world' site on the Israeli Vautours.
2. So, I am back again to extend my warmest congratulations for your magnificent efforts in obtaining and compiling all this 'rare' information !
3. As you probably know, I am the author of the reference book on the Vautour (also co-founder of AIR FAN magazine some 20 years ago), having flown on V2N's as a reporter, photographed planes of EC 30 and EB 92
*(by the way, this wing moved from Cognac to Bordeaux-Mérignac in March 1961),
4. studied the factory files at Saint-Nazaire and Saint-Cloud, researched all over French bases and in Polynesia where many of these aircraft participated in atomic tests.
5. Regarding your site, I can be of help since there are many 'inaccuracies' ('errors' would definitely not be the right word) and lack of confirmation about production aircraft numbers or other matters.
6. Best regards and, again, bravo or even bravissimo, for your work. !
Alain Crosnier

July 17, 2001
From: Vernon J. Vautour
Email:[ vautour ]
Message: Interesting to read about this jet. I entered my last name on www.google.com to find this site listed first. I had no idea that a jet like this existed. Thanks. Vern Vautour

July 9, 2001
From: Herzle Bodinger {Maj. Gen. (Res.) / ex. IAF Commander}
Message: Best regards. "KOL HAKAVOD"
Hertzle

June 14, 2001
From: Uri Peleg
Email: [ uri ]
Message: Excellent

June 13, 2001
From: shmuel herchko
Email: [ herchko ]
Message: Dear zvi, I enjoyed the site. Its a reminder of my early days at sq. 110.

April 14, 2001
From: Michael Morris
Email: [ michael ]
Message: Great site. Was hoping for something a little more detailed for us IPMS types with AMS (Advanced Modelers Syndrome) that have just obtained the new 1/48th scale Hi-Tech kit of the Vautour IIN.

March 28, 2001
From: Military.com WebSite

Message:
Congratulations on being selected as a top military site!
Our editors have selected your site as one of the best military sites on the Web. Military.com recognizes your website as a valued resource for the military community. We salute you and your efforts. In appreciation, we would like to present you with our Distinguished Military Site Award.
Earning this award entitles you to display the award on your site for the remainder of 2001.
Congratulations on a great military site!
Best regards,
[ The Military.com Team ]

May 24, 2001
From: Michael Morris
Email: [ michael ]
Message: Great site. Was hoping for something a little more detailed for us IPMS types with AMS (Advanced Modelers Syndrome) that have just obtained the new 1/48th scale Hi-Tech kit of the Vautour IIN. Anybody have any suggestions?

May 22, 2001
From: David Marnin
Email: [ david m. ]
Message: Dear Zvi, I have actually read most of the pages in your site. There is only one thing you have not said: the VAUTOUR was one of the most beautiful airplanes ever made!! As they said in thr IAF magazine a long time ago, it was "the jet Mosquito". Thanks for creating such a great site.

May 3, 2001
From: Bolton Lam
Email:
Message: very good

March 17, 2001
From: Christophe Wera
Email: [ wera ]
Site: [ Club Ansmodelisme ]
Message: Very great photos and captions. I have acquired the new Vautour IIN from hi-tech in 1/48 scale models. Your site is very helpful for me. Visit our site.
* Ch. Wera, IPMS Belgium Ans modelisme;

February 4, 2001
From: Enrique Martínez M.
Email: [ enrique ]
Message: I like your site. I would like to write a book in Spanish about the IAF (I live in Venezuela)...

January 8, 2001
From: Dani Stettiner
Email: [ dani ]
Message: I found your site when I typed "matos" in the netex site. I guess I'm one of a relatively small group of people that hear the names such as VAUTOUR , or METEOR or OURAGAN and know what it means. So, congratulations for a great job. I also had never been to the I.D.F, but when I was a kid (born 1961), and used to read all the "betaon heil haavir" I could find, especially the old ones, and I still remember a story about the new Vautour. However, the first time I really saw this plane, was in Refidim, 1978, where my high school class saw sent for "sherut leumi". We were working in "mahsan herum", but I could not resist the temptation and I took a walk trip by myself to the runway area, where I saw some "decoys" : 4 dummy skyhawks, and 3 or 4 real vautours, which I was excited to see, especially because there was a climbing ladder on at list one of them, and I climbed to the cockpit and sat in the pilots seat. I was wondering what happened to these plans after Refidim was returned to the Egyptians not so long after that. Do you know if they were returned to Israel or just left there ? anyway, thanks for your site.
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December 31, 2000:
From: Michael Satin
Email: [ michael ]
Message: Zvi, Very nice pages! I'm especially interested now that HiTech is going to do a 1/48 Vautour IIN. Sure hope it has (correct) IAF markings! Thanks for all the great info.! Michael

December 18, 2000:
From: Alon Snir
Email: [ alon ]
Message: What an impressive and interesting site, on a plane that was so important for the IAF, but is already in the shadows of the past. I would like to see in the site photos and pictures of the Vautur that could be utilised as computer screen wallpaper.

December 6, 2000:
From: CHARLES STAFRACE
Email: [ charles ]
Message: An excellent monograph which I will certainly use as a central point of reference.

December 5, 2000:
From: ARMANDO GIL M.
Email: [ armando ]
Message: VERY INTERESTING PAGE FOR A LITTLE-KNOWN AIRPLANE. GOOD LUCK.

October 15, 2000:
From: Zweighaft Meir
Email: [ meir ]
Message: Magnificant. Please continue with all the other types

October 12, 2000:
From: Joel-Pol STEFF
Email: [ joel ]
Message: I really appreciate this tribute to the Vautour, and operations with the IDF-AF. So seldom to find info about. Please receive all my thanks for this very nice work.

October 11, 2000:
From: Walter W. Cromwell
Email: [ walter ]
Message: Was looking for some unique aircraft to download when a search turned up your site. An excellent effort on an aircraft that is not very well known. As a teenager, living at a Canadian Air Base in Germany, in the later 50's...I believe I actually saw one of these but lacked the interest in aviation at that time. Now have a liking for the old big twins.. We were flying the CF-100 Canuck then. Just thought I would let you know that your efforts in putting a site out in cyber-space for the enjoyment of others is much appreciated. Thank you , Walt

August 29, 2000:
From: John W. Willmott
Email: [ willmott ]
Message: ( The Six Days Chapter) Interesting start but what happened to other days beyond first day?. And was the first strike by Jordan or was it Israel premtively striking to prevent an anticipated attack?

May 24, 2000:
From: Hugh Ramsay
Email: [ hugh ]
Message:Hi Zvi . . . I was very interested to find a 'link' to your website when searching for something else ... in fact, I have been trying to find some information on the Vautour for a little while now as it is an aircraft I know very little about .. I have a general interest in aircraft of this period. I have a special interest in the Meteor and Phantom both of which, of course, were utilised by IAF. Again, thanks for a very interesting site ! From Scotland, UK

May 17, 2000:
From: Hasan Ersel
Email: [ hasan ]
Message: I would like to congratulate you for the comprehesive coverage of an aircraft which receives unfairly less coverage than its historical importance. I am also looking forward to read the operations that the Vautours undertake in the south of Egypt during the 6-days war.

May 6, 2000:
From: Avraham Sfadia
(Of the first Meteor N.F.13 and Vautour N navigators)
Message: It is a good initiative for a special and extraordinary plane to be mentioned and related in this channel of the media. The thecnical details are good enough. Still missing the fact about the place of the 119 Sqn. (in the age of the NF-13 and the Vautour in he night defence of Israel, as "pioneers" in that period. While the Mirage pilots left to sleep with the "Chikens", the night crews guarded Israel's sky. In those days pilots couldn't realise the value of "someone sitting behind", with additional eyes in training and in combat. Today, it is obvious to fly in team . that's all for now. I must look in my files to find some more details. Thanks for the initiative & we shall keep in touch. Avraham.

May 5, 2000:
From: Pern lpkor, Singapore
Site: Singapore AF Unofficial site
eMAIL:[ Ipkor ]
Message: This is a very great site which introduced me to the vautour, which I have not really heard of previously. Great effort must have been put in. I find the site very informative... it is a very good website.
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May 1st, 2000
From: Ron Feldman (Israel)
Email: [ Ron ]
Message: I just had a glance. It is amazing. Will visit again soon. The only real data I had until now was that found in Biaf of Yehuda Borovik. I have a strong interest in military aviation, in particular that related to the IAF. My father is Sam Feldman who flew the B-17's of the "Hammers" in Milchemet Hashichrur (War of Independence) and acted also as it's O.C. I am his youngest son, now 41. Amos Dor recommended I "surf" to your web site.

During April 2000:
More IAF veterans who visited the site, sent personal messages or called by phone:
( Maj. Gen. Hertzel Bodinger) ; ( Maj. Gen. Ran Goren) ; ( Col. Adam Tzivoni ) ; ( Brig. Gen. Yaakov Terner ) ( Col. Moshe 'Simi" Saar ) ; ( Maj. Ezra Aaharon );

April 29, 2000
From : Col. (Ret.) Levy Tzur
(Sqn. 110 Commander in the SDW).
Message: Dear Zvi, I salute you for an excellent presentation! Your web-site is a work of art, and the Vautour deserves it. "Chapeau", Levy.

April 25, 2000
Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Binyamin Peled
(The first IAF pilot to fly the Vautour, 1956)
Message: Yes, I was the first IAF pilot to fly the Vautour in the CENTRE DES EXPERIMENTATION AERIENNE in Bretigny, near Paris, in 1956. It was a dual seat prototype equipped with two AVON British axial compression turbo jets (because the SNECMA engines were not ready for test flying). The performance of this Avon-equipped prototype was better than the ones we purchased with the French engines.
( Also sent more details about his three test flights ).
( info included in the Purchase section )

April 19, 2000
From: Florencio Baca
eMAIL: [ florencio ]
Message: Great site. Keep up the good work !

April 18, 2000
From: Micha Ramati
{ Of the first Vautour navigators - z.k. }

eMAIL: [ n.a. , to his request]
Message: A pleasent surprise and a very interesting one ! Please update the following: [ omitted - z.k ]

April 16, 2000
From: Ovadia Nachman
{ Of the first Vautour pilots, and the commander of both Vautours squadrons - z.k. }

eMAIL: [ n.a. , to his request]
Message: KOL HAKAVOD (Hebrew - "All The Honor"), ZVI! I am very impressed of this site! hope you will continue to fill the missing parts and keep it updated. Some small corrections: (omitted - z.k.)

April 11, 2000
From: Elyashiv (Shivi) Brosh
{ Of the first Meteor N.F.13 and Vautour navigators - z.k. }

eMAIL: [ n.a.; to his request]
Message: Nice site. Please contact me if additional information is required on 119 early days. Regards, Shivi.

April 11, 2000
From: Brig. Gen. (IAF Ret.) Oded Erez, Israel
{Of the first Vautour navigators - z.k.}

eMAIL: [ n.a. , to his request]
Message : As a veteran, with many hours on the Vautour, I mostly appreciate the idea and the work. If there is anything I can help in info, stories, connections, etc. - just let me know. Toda . Oded Erez.

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March 31, 2000
From: Holger Sens, Danmark
eMAIL: [ holger ]
Message : Fantastic. Much more than I expected. The best I've read about IDF-AF Vautours. Thanks a lot.

March 25, 2000
From: Alberto Sardina, Spain
eMAIL: [ Alberto ]
Message: It's incredible how much some people know about things we even can't dream to know! I'm an avid reader of Shlomo Aloni's articles and it really surprised me to find your page, especially when I was sure of having bookmarked all the bests pages in the net about the IDF/AF. Your page is a great work (and very exhaustive).

March 24, 2000
From: Jens Baganz, Germany
eMAIL: [ Jens ]
Message: Congratulations ! Great site, especially for me, because since several years I'm very busy in producing drawings. After british post WWII aviation I've turned my attention to the french. But in the meantime I guess it's easier to get information about the most secret russian aircraft than about some french models which actually flew! So every site about french aviation is very welcome. greetings from Germany !

March 19, 2000
From: thaddeus aquilina
eMAIL: [ thaddeus ]
Message: Cooool site. What a great help for us modellers who have no source to such aircraft as the venerable Vautour. Keep up the good work. I look forward to more updates. Congrats.

March 12, 2000
From: Adrian Cybriwsky, USA
eMAIL: [ adrian ]
Site: http://www.totavia.com/imagearchive/
Link: [ Totavia Image Archive ]
Message: Great. A MUST for any early jets enthusiast. Carry on !

March 9, 2000
From: Tsahi Ben-Ami, Israel
eMAIL: [ solo ]
Site: http:// www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/5415/
Link: [ solo site ]
Message: Great Vautour Site ! It shows an impressive research job. Now let me know when is the IAF "Vautour Book", (first edition), going to be published...

March 3, 2000
From: Adrian Cybriwsky,
eMail: [ adrian ]
Site: [ Totavia ]
Message: Cool site!

March 2, 2000
From: Todd E. Merrill, USA
eMail: [ merrill ]
Message: Great site for a uncommon bird!
Site: (Dedicated to) A-5 Vigilante
URL: http://www.f4phantom.simplenet.com/vigi/
Link: [ Vigis ]

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February 29, 2000
From: Cedric Meinen
eMail: [ cedric ]
Message: Je sais combien il est difficile de trouver des informations sur l'aviation militaire Israelienne. Votre travail comble un grand vide avec brio.. We want more... and thank you. Cédric

February 28, 2000
From: Petr Moshe Prause, Czech.
eMail: [ petr moshe ]
Message: Shalom Zvi! Thank you very much for these excellent pages. It is really interesting to read about Vautours in Chel HaAvir. So, once again "Toda Raba" ! {Hebrew: Thanks}

February 27, 2000
From: Idit Cohen, Israel
eMail: n.a. to her request
Message: I was really impressed by your work ! Well done ! It's intersting and serious. I read it all ! Continue like this.

February 27, 2000
From: Amos Dor, Italy
eMAIL: [ amos dor ]
Home Page: [ iaf interfree ]
Message: Shalom Zvi. Excellent pages. Very nice work. Keep it on!!! Amos

February 20, 2000
From: Carl Pettypiece (Maintainer of "Elevon"), U.S.A
Message: Thanks for visiting Elevon. I have put a link to your page at Elevon under People & Places. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Take care.
eMail: [ Carl Pettypiece ]
Site: "Elevon"
URL: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/
Link: [(click here)]

February 19, 2000
From: Philippe Edouard, France
Message: I received your mail today and went to see your great pages. Very interesting . I will add your URL to My links section soon.
eMail: [ Philippe ]
Site: [ The Mirage III ]

February 19, 2000
From: John Sullivan, U.K
Message: Have you ever considered taking this beatiful bird to a Royal International Air Tatto?
eMail: [ John Sullivan ]

February 19, 2000
From: Joe Baugher (Fditor of many sites and a huge database on U.S aircraft), U.S.A
Message: Thanks for the link. I will add it to my aviation links.
eMail: [ Joe Baugher ]
Site: "Aviation Sites"
URL: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/aircraft.html
Link: [(click here)]

February 19, 2000
From: Daniel, France
Message: Nice website about a fantastic french aircraft !!!! I will put a link in my link page.
Site: "Decollage" / Aviaweb, France
URL: http://www.aviaweb@decollage.org
Link: [(click here)]

February 19, 2000
From: Werner Bergmans, Holland
eMail: [ Werner ]
Message: Hi Zvi, Very nice site, you did some excellent work!.
Site: "Fighter Planes"
URL: http://www.fighter-planes.com
Link: [ (click here) ]

February 18, 2000
From: Karel M.J.Hellebrand, Czech.
eMail: [ Karel ]
Message: Zvi, I must congratulate you for your magnificent work you really collected any available bit of information around about the Vautour on this address, and perfectly organised it. Since now I will look over your shoulder quite often to closely watch any new item on your Vautours! And also I thank you for an excellent new Chel Ha'Avir website

February 16, 2000
From: Serge Batoussov.
eMail: [ Serge ]
Message: The site is really great! I found a lot of interesting information I never read before. And your photo galleries are very interesting. Vautour's photos aren't widespread in Internet. It was my first visit to your page. I'm going to explore it more carefully. Keep up the good work!
Site: "The Israeli Air Force Museum"
URL: http://www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/7934/iafm_index.htm
Link: [ (click here) ]

February 15, 2000
From: Ostilio G. Bonacini
eMail: [ Ostilio ]
Message: Excellent, excellent, excellent! Went briefly on your site and must confess it's impressive in layout and content. Hope that some Vautour "veterans" will add the missing info.

February 10, 2000
From: David Lednicer
eMAIL: [ David ]
Message: The Vautour pages look excellent - I particularly like how you organized the information. Also, despite what you might think, I find your English to be very good

February 10, 2000
From: Damien Burke, U.K
eMail: n.a. to his request
Message: Hiya Zvi, Reading right now. Excellent work so far! It is good to see another 'forgotten' aircraft on the web. We will outnumber the F-16s eventually! (Well, maybe not :)). I'll stick a link in next time I update my site.
Site: "THUNDER & LIGHTNINGS", BRITISH POST-WAR MILITARY AIRCRAFT"
URL: http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/contents.html
Link: [ (click here ]

February 8, 2000
From: Avi Myasnikov, Israel
eMail: [ Avinoam ]
Message: Fine work. It's going to be the hottest site of the IAFlist, Good Luck & Carry on.

February 4, 2000
From: Oren Rozen, Israel
eMAIL: [ Oren ]
Message: Hi zvi, you've done an excellent job with the Vautour Pages. Why don't you join the IAF web ring ?
Site: "The Israeli Air Force - IDF-AF"
URL: www.oocities.org/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2848
Link: [ (click here) ]

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