KLZE and KLDE Comparison!


The JDM version of the KLDE(AKA KL03) engine is the KLZE. The KLZE engine is from Japan. Here is an indepth comparisons of the engines. There is 4-5 different versions of the 2.5L that is used by Ford and Mazda. The engines use the same piston height, bore and stroke, rod length, deck height, crank, and combustion chamber. All the information came from/can be found at ProbeTalk.com.

Japanese: MS8 aka MX6 Japanese: Eunos 800: aka Pre-2000 Millenias American, European, Australian: 93-94.5 American, European, Australian: 94.5 to present American: 2000-up Millenias
Engine Code KLZE KLZE KLDE KLDE KLDE
Horsepower* 200 @ 6500 RPM 200 @ 6500 RPM 164 @ 6000 RPM 164 @ 6000 RPM 170 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)* 165 @ 5500 RPM 165 @ 4800 RPM 156 @ 4000 RPM 160 @ 4800 RPM 160 @ 5000 RPM
Compression Ratio* 10:1 10:1 9.2:1 9.2:1 9.5:1
Bore x Stroke *(mm) 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2 84.5x74.2
Ports* Square Square D-shaped D-shaped Square
Head Codes KL31-101 and KL31-1A1* KL31-101 and KL31-1A1* KL-101 and KL-1A1* KL-101 and KL-1A1* KL-31
Cams Codes KL-31* KL-01* KL-01* KL-01* ??
Intake Manifold* Long Neck Curved neck Short Neck Short Neck Curved neck
VRIS #1 Open ??mm ??mm 750 rpms* 750 rpms* ??mm
VRIS #1 Close ?? ?? 3250 rpms* 3250 rpms* ??
VRIS #2 Open ?? ?? 4250 rpms* 4250 rpms* ??
VRIS #2 Close 6250 rpms 6250 rpms 6250 rpms* 6250 rpms* 6250 rpms
Stock RPM Limit* 7500 7500 7000 7000 7500
Fuel Pressure ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
Pistons* Flat Top Flat Top Dished Dished Dished
ECU KL31/36* ?? ?? ?? ??
Air Meter* JE-50 VAF MAF KL02 VAF KL02 VAF MAF
Japanese: MS8 aka MX6 Japanese: Eunos 800: aka Pre-2000 Millenias American, European, Australian: 93-94.5 American, European, Australian: 94.5 to present American: 2000-up Millenias



Japanese: 5 speed manual Japanese: 5 speed manual American, European, Australian: 5 speed manual
Transmission Code ??? ??? ???
1st gear ??? ??? 3.307*
2nd gear ??? ??? 1.833*
3rd gear ??? ??? 1.310*
4th gear ??? ??? 1.030*
5th gear ??? ??? 0.795*
Reverse ??? ??? 3.166*
Finial Drive ??? ??? 4.388*
traction Open LSD Open
Japanese: 5 speed manual Japanese: 5 speed manual American, European, Australian: 5 speed manual



NOTE: '*' - information is forsure, the ones that don't have the '*' are probably very close. I am in process of figureing out everything.

I have put together of a list of people that sell KLZE engine for the Ford Probes. On E-bay they usually run about $800-1400 for the engine maybe with a tranny (some have tranny's included). The Prices listed where quoted as of May 10ish, 2003. I asked for a price quote on several items: KLZE, 5speed Transmission with Limited Slip Differential, ECU, Air Meter and a Wire Harness. (NOTE: these are cost that the businsse has quoted to me. Prices may/will vary from time to time.)

Price are for what is listed. Prices do not include shipping.
A1 JDM ENGINES : $1200; Engine
CSN Motors: $895; Engine
Japan Direct: $1597; Engine
J-Spec Auto Sports: $1499; Engine and Trans w/o LSD ($1795 shipped)
Nippon-motors: $2100; (Engine: $1050, Trans: $650 w/o LSD, ECU: $500).
Noyan USA: $1400; Engine and Trans
Osaka Motors: $1400; Engine, Trans, and ECU
SoshinUSA: $1300
Sun's Motors: $1150; Engine ($1000 for mx3.com, mx6.com and/or probetalk.com members)
WildCard Performance: $1400; Engine and Trans(w/o LSD).

FRONT CLIPS
Currently No one sells a front clip with the KLZE engine. If you know of some who does E-mail(wvuviv31@hotmail.com}) with the information.



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