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If we want a couple of games with the "WOW" effect only to lose when it counts lets pay Peyton 40M. If you want a team that can win when the championship is on the line let the 'sometimes' QB go and spend the $ on D. I'm sick of losing and it's worse to to come this close and just take a crap on the opportunity. Polian will want big praise for this and he already got his contract but I'm a life long Colts fan and a 12 year season ticket holder (since I moved here) and I'm done. Thehell with Peyton and his inability to win when it counts. I was 13 when the Colts beat the Cowboys in the Super Bowl and I don't think I'll ever see it again. I'm sick...

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you all do remeber the Colts record before Peyton started playing??? You want to go back to that? I for one believe that he needs to retire in a Colt jersey

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Seems like he won 2 weeks in a row when it counted. If Manning REALLY wants a ring maybe he should look at the situation he is in, a great offense with a suspect D, dont bend Irsay over on the contract deal so Irsay will have the $$ to spend on some D.

But I know that wont happen, cause it never does.

Peyton doesnt go anywhere and thats fine with me.

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Yes I want to get back to the days of Jim Harbaugh and the Goose! At least we were competitive in the AFC title game!

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If the colts want to improve for next season, then they should better get some real players to play defense...The defensive unit this season was an absolute joke. Peyton and the offense had to score on every possesion which is totally unrealistic, because the defensive unit is an absolute joke.

I mean who really expected this team to go anywhere when the defense can't stop anybody.

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Originally posted by TomThumb
Seems like he won 2 weeks in a row when it counted. If Manning REALLY wants a ring maybe he should look at the situation he is in, a great offense with a suspect D, dont bend Irsay over on the contract deal so Irsay will have the $$ to spend on some D.

But I know that wont happen, cause it never does.

Peyton doesnt go anywhere and thats fine with me.

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I felt Our D stepped up to this game I also believe we confused em when we ran the ball......


Shoulda Woulda Coulda


Can't wait for next years run

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Yes I want to get back to the days of Jim Harbaugh and the Goose! At least we were competitive in the AFC title game!

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I agree that the defense needs improving, which is an easy assessment, but let Peyton go? Forget it. Why let the best QB in the game go? His presence alone makes this team better. Remember, this is a team game. There were other aspects of today's game that you have to consider, such as the offensive line. It looked like a sieve at times today. Harrison couldn't break free of Ty Law. The Colts virtually abandoned the running game in the second half. The weather. Etc. And the bottom line is that we played the best team in the AFC today in their back yard. A place where they have yet to lose (since playing in Gillette). Letting Manning go would be a mistake - unless the team simply can't afford him when it's time to negotiate. I, personally, would unload Marvin Harrison before Manning. We have a great corps of receivers and if the Colts need cash for defensive help, Harrison's salary would probably pay for a couple of excellent defensive players. Don't get me wrong, I would hate to see Marvin go - he's truly the best - but this defense needs some serious help if the Colts are ever going to make it to the big dance.

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Yes I want to get back to the days of Jim Harbaugh and the Goose! At least we were competitive in the AFC title game!

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The D did step up in the 2nd half but it was too late.

The Colts were extremely lucky to be in it down the stretch. The Patsies could have easily been ahead by 4 touchdowns at the half, and should have been.

Reasons why Manning was lousy today:
1) The first int was a bad throw and Manning knew it, a blow to the psyche right away in a scoring situation. Big momentum breaker, tough to overcome on the road. It wasn't just a turnover, it took a TD off the board.
2) Patsies took advantage with their offense having it's way all day long. This in turn once again put the offense in the position of carrying this team. After #1, that's tough to overcome.
3) Defensive pressure in Peyton's face all day long. This was huge for the Patsies. The Colts oline looked almost nonexistant, although the run blocking was working. Should have stayed with that early in the game, that's on Tom Moore.
4) All of the above contributed to Manning making one lousy decision after another. We saw the upside of Manning's liberty to audible the last few weeks, we again saw the downside of it today.
5) Manning seemed once again to fixate on Harrison in pressure situations, big mistake against the Patsies.

I'm a dedicated Colts fan and this season has been special. 28 other teams were at home watching today, so to move this deep in the post season was great. Unlike the Harbaugh years, this team has lots of upside. While the disappointment of this loss is hard to deal with, it would be a huge mistake to let Manning go. If not for Manning, the Colts would never have sniffed the AFC championship game. The window is still open. The major flaw on this team continues to be the defense. No pass rush whatsoever today. Rob Morris is a bust and needs to go. So does Bashir. Move Strickland to corner next year along with Harper, and ponder going to a 3/4 defense with some studs at linebacker.

That's all I've got people.

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Yes our defense has been shaky all season..but you cannot blame this game on them. They had the Patriots settle for 5 field goals. 15 of their points came off stopping them. 2 more from the special teams mishap. 17 points right there. Manning had 4 picks, Harrison had a fumble. It is impossible to win a game with 5 turnovers. Don't get rid of Manning...keep the offense how it is...just maybe bring in some vets on d..and let the rookies develop and we will be fine.

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peyton manning got us to where we are today. he didn't play well today, bottom line. but letting him go would be a huge mistake. his on field play calling and communication w/ his line, receivers, and rbs is unparalleled in the nfl and no qb would be able to come in and be comparable. yeah he played bad today, but lets consider where we would be without him under center.

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peyton manning got us to where we are today. he didn't play well today, bottom line. but letting him go would be a huge mistake. his on field play calling and communication w/ his line, receivers, and rbs is unparalleled in the nfl and no qb would be able to come in and be comparable. yeah he played bad today, but lets consider where we would be without him under center.

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