David Bohm

From Science, Order, and Creativity, 1987 by David Bohm and F. David Peat

DAVID BOHM:  . . . I'd like to bring in the work of Alfred Korzybski, . . .  
He said that mathematics is a limited linguistic scheme, which makes possible great precision and coherence—but at the expense of such extreme abstraction that its applicability has, in certain key ways, to be bounded.

Korzybski said, for example, that whatever we say a thing is, it isn't. First of all, whatever we say is words, and what we want to talk about is generally not words.  (Etc.)

All this implies that every kind of thought, mathematics included, is an abstraction, . . (etc).

DAVID PEAT:   What you have said about Korzybski reminds me of René Magritte's painting of a pipe which also contains the words This is not a pipe. However realistic a painting may be, it falls indefinitely short of being an actual pipe. And ironically, the word pipe in the title is not an actual pipe either. Perhaps, in the spirit of Magritte, every theory of the universe should have in it the fundamental statement "This is not a universe."

DAVID BOHM:   Actually, a theory is a kind of map of the universe, and like any other map, it is a limited abstraction and not entirely accurate. Mathematics provides one aspect of the overall map, but other ways of thinking are needed along the lines we have been discussing.

( USA : Bantam Books 1987 ; Great Britain : Routledge 1989 )
2nd edition New York : Routledge 2000 pages 8-9.

Bibliographic, sources   http://melvyl.cdlib.org   etc.

Author Bohm, David Title The essential David Bohm / edited by Lee Nichol Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 2003 Description ix, 349 p. : ill. ; 22 cm

Author Bohm, David Title Wholeness and the implicate order / David Bohm Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 2002 Series Routledge classics

Author Bohm, David Title Science, order, and creativity / David Bohm, F. David Peat Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, c2000

Author Bohm, David. Title Bohm-Biederman correspondence / David Bohm and Charles Biederman ; edited by Paavo Pylkkanen. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1999- Description v. : ill. ; 23 cm. ISBN 0415162254 (hbk.) Language English Note Includes bibliographical references and index. Contents v.1. Creativity and science Subject Bohm, David -- Correspondence.
Biederman, Charles Joseph, 1906- -- Correspondence. Physicists -- England -- Correspondence. Artists -- United States -- Correspondence. Art and science.

Author Krishnamurti, J. (Jiddu), 1895- Title The limits of thought : discussions / J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1999.

Author Bohm, David Title On creativity / David Bohm ; edited by Lee Nichol Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1998

Author Bohm, David. Title On dialogue / David Bohm ; edited by Lee Nichol. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1996.

Author Bohm, David. Title Wholeness and the implicate order / David Bohm. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1995, c1980. Format Book

Author Bohm, David. Title Unfolding meaning : a weekend of dialogue with David Bohm. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1995. Description xiii, 177 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. Note Originally published: Mickleton : Foundation House, 1985. Edited by Donald Factor. ISBN 0415136385

Title An Interview with David Bohm [videorecording] / producer/director Noel Fox Publisher New York : Mystic Fire Video, Inc., c1994 Format Videorecording

Title Thought as a system / edited by David Bohm. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1994. Description xvii, 250 p. ; 22 cm. Note "This is a transcription of a seminar held in Ojai, California from 31 November to 2 December, 1990." Originally published: David Bohm Seminars, 1992. Includes index. ISBN 0415119804
0415110300 (pbk.)

Author Bohm, David. Title The Undivided Universe : an ontological interpretation of quantum theory / by David Bohm and Basil Hiley. Publisher New York, NY : Routledge ; 1993.

Author Bohm, David. Title The Undivided Universe : an ontological interpretation of quantum theory / by David Bohm and Basil Hiley. Publisher New York, NY : Routledge ; 1993.

Author Bohm, David. Title Changing consciousness : exploring the hidden source of the social, political, and environmental crises facing our world / David Bohm, Mark Edwards. Publisher [San Francisco] : HarperSanFrancisco, c1991.

Title Quantum implications : essays in honour of David Bohm / edited by B.J. Hiley and F. David Peat. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge, 1991.

Author Bohm, David. Title Science, order and creativity / David Bohm, F. David Peat. Publisher London : Routledge, 1989, c1987.

Author Bohm, David Title The special theory of relativity / David Bohm Publisher Redwood City, Calif. : Addison-Wesley Pub. Co., c1989

Author Bohm, David. Title Science, order, and creativity / David Bohm, F. David Peat. Publisher Toronto ; New York : Bantam Books, c1987.

Title Quantum implications : essays in honour of David Bohm / edited by B.J. Hiley, F. David Peat. Publisher London ; New York : Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1987.

Title Beyond mechanism : the universe in recent physics and Catholic thought / edited by David L. Schindler ; contributors, David Bohm ... [et al.]. Publisher Lanham : University Press of America, c1986.

Author Krishnamurti, J. (Jiddu), 1895- Title The future of humanity : a conversation / J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm. Publisher San Francisco : Harper & Row, c1986.

Author Bohm, David, 1917- Title Unfolding meaning : a weekend of dialogue with David Bohm / edited by Donald Factor Publisher Mickleton : Foundation House, 1985

Author Krishnamurti, J. (Jiddu), 1895- Title The ending of time / J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm. Edition 1st Harper & Row pbk. ed. Publisher San Francisco : Harper & Row, 1985. Description 268 p. ; 21 cm. Note "Prepared from dialogues that took place ... in America and England between April and September 1980"--P. 5. ISBN 0060647965 (pbk.) :

Author Krishnamurti, J. (Jiddu), 1895- Title The ending of time / J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm. Publisher London : V. Gollancz, 1985. Description 268 p. ; 23 cm. Note "Prepared from dialogues that took place ... in America and in England between April and September 1980"--P. [5]. ISBN 0575035722 :

Author Bohm, David. Title Causality and chance in modern physics / David Bohm ; foreword by Louis De Broglie. Edition 3rd Pennsylvania paperback ed. Publisher Philadelphia : University of Pennsylvania Press, 1984, c1957. Description xi, 170 p. ill. 21 cm. Note Bibliography [for chapter 4]: p. 128-129. ISBN 0812210026

Author Bohm, David. Title Wholeness and the implicate order / David Bohm. Publisher London : Ark Paperbacks, 1983, c1980. Description xv, 224 p. ; 20 cm. Note Originally published: London : Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1980. Includes index. ISBN 0744800005 (pbk) :

Author Bohm, David Title Wholeness and the implicate order / David Bohm Publisher London ; Boston : Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1981, c1980 Description xv, 224 p. : ill. ; 22 cm

Author Bohm, David Title Causality and chance in modern physics / David Bohm ; foreword by Louis De Broglie Edition 2nd Pennsylvania paperback ed Publisher Philadelphia : University of Pennsylvania Press, 1980, c1957 Description xi, 170 p. : ill. ; 21 cm Note Cover title: Causality & chance in modern physics Note Bibliography: p. 128-129 ISBN 0812210026 (pbk.) :

Author Krishnamurti, J. (Jiddu), 1895- Title Truth and actuality / J. Krishnamurti. Edition lst U. S. ed. Publisher San Francisco : Harper & Row, c1978. Description 171 p. ; 21 cm. Note Part 1 consists of discussions between J. Krishnamurti and D. Bohm. ISBN 0060648732 :

Author Bohm, David. Title Fragmentation and wholeness / David Bohm. Publisher Jerusalem : Van Leer Jerusalem Foundation, 1976. Description 90 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. Series Van Leer Jerusalem Foundation series. Note Based on a talk delivered at the Van Leer Jerusalem Foundation, April 1972. Note Includes bibliographical references.

Author : Kenneth Martin ; Title : KENNETH MARTIN. London: Tate Gallery, 1975. Essays published to coincide with the Tate Gallery exhibition. Essays by Andrew Forge, Joost Baljeu, Anthony Hill, William Tucker, Francois Morellet, Gerhard von Graevenitz, Michael Morris, David Bohm, and Michael Compton.

Title Beyond chance and necessity : a critical inquiry into Professor Jacques Monod's Chance and necessity / edited by John Lewis ; contributors, David Bohm ... [et al.] Publisher London : Garnstone Press, c1974

Author Bohm, David. Title Causality and chance in modern physics / David Bohm ; foreword by Louis De Broglie. Publisher Philadelphia : University of Pennsylvania, 1971. Series Pennsylvania paperback ;1002.

Author Bohm, David. Title Causality and chance in modern physics. Foreword by Louis De Broglie. Publisher London : Routledge & Kegan Paul, [1967, c1957]

Author Bohm, David. Title The special theory of relativity. Publisher New York, W. A. Benjamin, 1965. Description xiv, 236 p. illus. 22 cm. Series Lecture notes and supplements in physics ;7

(Radio program) Title Quanta and reality; a symposium for the nonscientist on the physical and philosophical implications of quantum mechanics, by David Bohm and others. Pref. by David Edge. Introd. by Stephen Toulmin. Publisher Cleveland, Meridian Books, 1964, c1962. Description 95p. illus.

Author Bohm, David Title Problems in the basic concept of physics; an inaugural lecture delivered at Birkbeck College 13th February 1963 Publisher [London, Printed for the Birkbeck College by J.W. Ruddock, 1963] Description 50 p. illus. 26 cm

Title Quanta and reality : a symposium / [by David Bohm ... et al. ; Pref. by David Edge]. Publisher [Larchmont, N.Y.] : American Research Council, c1962. Description 95 p. : ill. ; 21 cm.

Author Bohm, David. Title Causality and chance in modern physics. Foreword by Louis de Broglie. Publisher New York, Harper [1961] Description 170 p. illus. 21 cm. Series Harper torchbooks. The science library

Author Bohm, David Title Causality and chance in modern physics. Foreword by Louis De Broglie Publisher London, Routledge & K. Paul [c1957] Description xi, 170 p. illus. 23 cm Note Bibliography: p. 128-129

Author Bohm, David, 1917- Title Causality and chance in modern physics. Publisher Princeton, N.J., Van Nostrand [c1957] Description 170 p. illus. 23 cm.

Author Bohm, David. Title Quantum theory / by David Bohm. Publisher Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Prentice-Hall, c1951. Description ix, 646 p. : ill. ; 24 cm. Series Prentice-Hall physics series Note Includes index. Note Bibliography: p. 2-3.