Sick or not,Those who would like to hear from Fellow ADGies.
Alan Atherton...........02-66875920
Paul Tuck....................02-49911964
Mick Brodie................ 02-99404340
Paul Pannowitz...........02-49500306
Bushy Bill Trevethan..02-68290177
Trevor Nye...................07 41256279
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Grounds for a new badge
I feel compelled to respond to the comments by Group Captain MacDonald in relation to Air Force personnel being permitted to wear the Infantry Combat Badge.
Should I be surprised by the GPCAPT’s comment that service by (infantry) personnel in an operational area is not connected to the core business of the Air Force?
That comment tells me three things.
First, it’s a very aircrew-centric line of thought.
Second, that GPCAPT MacDonald isn’t aware, or has overlooked, the fine work being done by Air Force dog handlers patrolling with the infantry in East Timor.
Third, that the GPCAPT has forgotten that service in an operational area (including ground combat) is the core business of 95 per cent of the Air Force.
If operational service isn’t our reason for being, what is? And as only a small percentage of the Air Force fly for a living, it makes the rest ground combatants.
I’m not suggesting the Air Force should issue the ICB. But an equivalent “ground combat badge” with similar criteria ought to be created.
How would you feel, spending six months in East Timor, going out on border patrols like everybody else in the battalion, then seeing them receive recognition in the form of an ICB while you get nothing?
Flight Sergeant S.J. Brasher
SNCOIC GDTS
RAAF CSU WAGGA
Taken from the Airforce News.
Here Here many an ADG served outside the relative safety of RAAF bases during Active Service and need recognistion for such, I'm sure that patrolling and night ambushes don't ocurr inside secure areas but alas outside where things can get really tough. I personnaly feel that it's time that the RAAF realised that in this instance Adg's are and will always be combat personnel and as such deserve recognistion for their combat skills.
Here Here many an ADG served outside the relative safety of RAAF bases during Active Service and need recognistion for such, I'm sure that patrolling and night ambushes don't ocurr inside secure areas but alas outside where things can get really tough. I personnaly feel that it's time that the RAAF realised that in this instance Adg's are and will always be combat personnel and as such deserve recognistion for their combat skills.
The Pom.
Footnote ; I feel at times there would be many more holes to patch in their aircraft if it was,nt for the patrolling and night security of the ambushes provided by ADG,s. While the rest of the base was warmly wrapped in their bunks at night secure in the feeling that ADG's and other groups were actively securing a good night,s sleep for them and their Aircrews.
Aircraft cannot takeoff from enemy controlled airfields, ADG,s help in keeping them enemy free.
Plus what about the ADG,s who where involved in Door Gunner activities where,n't they outside the base on combat duty, and were,nt many of them decorated for their bravery for doing such.
If any others wish to express their concerns or opinions here i would only be happy to obligue.
Well fellas it looks as if we're stuck with compiling our own nominal roll of East Timor ADG Veterans, so your help would be greatly appreciated in making this list possible, what we need is as follows,
Serial No / First Name + Surname / date in and out of country.
If more than one tour was completed then we need the dates of the second tour as well.
Footnote; When i contacted Veteran Affairs previously i was informed that a roll was under way, but like all things this is not correct it now appears that a Roll of East Timor Veterans may not happen, so in light of what i have just said we will look after our own. If you have details that will help in this list of not only yourself but of others who did their time in Timor then let me know and i'll add them to the list.
Thanking You's in advance the Pom.
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just acknowledging wayne sawdys comment as to some of us missing on the nonimal role.
Just because DVA thought I didn't exist doesn't mean you guys can forget about me too. does this mean I dont have to pay fees next year?
In western Australia and travelling on see you in 2004!!!
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Attention Fellas.
Just a short note from the Pom,
Sorry fellas but this weeks joke page will not be changed as I have had to format my hard drive and all the emails that you's have sent are gone but next week all will be well again, Many thanks to all those who have taken the time to help support the web site with News and jokes.
The Pom.
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A member of 2AFDS guards a C-130J Hercules during Exercise Swift Eagle.
MEMBERS of No. 2 Airfield Defence Squadron at RAAF Base Amberley were recently called on to evacuate Australian nationals from an island no one has ever heard of, let alone knows the location of.
Exercise Swift Eagle 02, which ran from September 19-26, brought together the different service capabilities of the ADF in a scenario built around the evacuation of Australians from the fictitious island of Capricornia.
Nearly a thousand local role-players from central Queensland communities were evacuated from their homes in helicopters, aircraft and landing craft.
Four No. 37 Squadron C-130J Hercules, four No. 38 Squadron Caribous and one C-130H from the RNZAF combined with 11 Army Blackhawk and four Chinook helicopters from 5 Aviation Regiment to ensure effective evacuations.
About 70 men from all four rifle flights at 2AFDS took part in a short-notice readiness activity as part of the exercise.
Pilot Officer Adam Penberthy, Commander of No. 4 Rifle Flight, said that the squadron spent five days on the ground in Central Queensland supporting 3 Brigade in their airfield defence roles.
“We secured their APOD (Airfield Point of Departure) and had 41 men on the ground securing the aircraft and protecting the Air Force assets,” he said.
A concurrent activity saw 30 Airfield Defence Guards doing in-flight aircraft security which, PLTOFF Penberthy said, involved securing passengers on the aircraft and providing close security to the aircraft.
“We had an evacuee handling centre where the Australian nationals and approved foreign nationals were processed,” he said.
“Then we’d fly them to safety – back to Australia.
“There were a number of scenarios on the exercise to test the aircrew and test our guys to see what the reactions were in the aircraft itself.”
Exercise Commander Major General Mark Evans described Swift Eagle as an “overwhelming success”, stressing the importance of the ADF having the capability to protect and evacuate Australians in foreign countries if required.
“We need to train for this – we need to be good at it,” MAJGEN Evans said.
Swift Eagle also provided an opportunity for the ADF’s behind-the-scenes personnel to show their skills, according to RAAF Base Townsville’s Squadron Leader Pete Turner.
“When people think of a military exercise, they naturally think of aircraft in the sky, ships at sea and troops on the ground,” SQNLDR Turner said.
“However, those activities are a bit like the ten per cent of the iceberg, the tip you can see. You don’t really see, or perhaps even fully appreciate what goes on in support of those activities.”.
By CAPT Phil Pyke and
PTE Simone Heyer-Irwin