Hey all,
I know it's been covered many times before, but I was wondering
if any of you T5 owners out there had used any of the
following tires and what your comments are:
Bridgestone Potenza RE940
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Asymmetrico
Pirelli P7000 SuperSport
And finally how you all feel about those Michelin XGT V4's.....
I need to replace my tires and, if you haven't noticed already,
am looking for 'relatively' cheap high performance A/S tires.
(Looking for most bang for the buck here)
I don't change tires in the winter but DO get a decent amount
of snow.
If you have anything you feel I should look at, feel free to tell me your experiences with those as well.
Thanks in Advance!
Scott Silverman
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'98 S70 T5-M - Tropic Green w/ tan, Spoiler, Fog Lights, CD Changer,
Cold Weather Pkg, Sunroof, recently installed SC-900
and external amp
I have SP 5000 Dunlops. I like them. They replaced a set of Dunlop
SP 8000s, which I thought wore out w*a*y too quickly.
IMHO the replacement Michelins were overpriced.
I also have Dunlops on daughter.gov's '88 Colony Park and my '86
Porsche. Wife.gov still has the original Michelins on her
Odyssey. They'll be replaced with Dunlops.
I've had pretty awful luck with Pirellis over the years.
I do not own stock in Dunlop.
-Pennsylvania Groundhog
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98 V70 T5M white/beige cloth/sport suspension/cold weather/fogs
76k mi., V-1, IPD stabilizer bars, Volvo strut tower brace
and skidplate
Got to go with Phil Pux on this one. I just recently changed from
Michelins to Dunlop SP 5000 Asym and love them. Bought
them Tirerack.com.
I think the cornering is much tighter. Wet and dry traction are
dramatically improved. Noise level is equivalent to the Michelins.
I cannot comment on longevity as I have had them for 2K miles.
Funny story - I had the installed ('97 854 GLT) and on the way
home I was pushing it a bit. Well a great big bit - 80 in a 65. I
was very late making it to the job. Well as you might guess -
got nailed by the Tenn State Trooper. I pulled over and waited for
him to get turned around (approx 2 miles down the road)!!! As
it turned out he owns a 850 Turbo. I told him I had just installed
the tires. He was looking for tires as well for his. So he put
me in his car and took off in mine to test them out. When he
returned, let me go with a warning. I'll trade $1-2 for gas versus
a $150-200 ticket any day.
Get the Dunlops - you won't regret it.
Andrew T. Watson
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1997 850 GLT, 1996 Toyota 4Runner
do the tires still come with a get out of jail free card? or was that a limited time offer?
You never said what the cop thought, did he like em?
I've always imagined that same incident though, being pulled over
and having the cop ask if he could take my T5 for a ride and
give a warning because he liked the car so much (and understood?).
Glad to hear it actually can happen :)
Scott
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'98 S70 T5-M - Tropic Green w/ tan, Spoiler, Fog Lights, CD Changer,
Cold Weather Pkg, Sunroof, recently installed SC-900
and external amp
Scott,
I don't know about the Bridgestone, but don't get PIRELLI, if
you don't have winter tires. I run a set of A/S Pirelli P6000 Sport
Velocites ( P195/60VR15 ) on my 1998 Volvo S70 NA. When
the snow falls, your S70 isn't going anywhere, if you got Pirelli on it.
I live
on a steep hill on a high mountain ... when it snows ...
it really snows ... when it does ... I drive my new SUV !
I do run my S70 on Pirelli's during winter, when there isn't any
snow on the ground. Pirelli are great on dry and during rainy conditions.
It
improves the braking on the car. I also have a set of Toyo low-profile
high-performance summer tire on 17" "R" rims.
As for the Dunlop, they just don't compare to the Pirelli's or/
Toyo's in the handling and cornering during WET ( rain ) and dry
roads. My friend runs a set of Dunlop SP5000 Sport on his 1997
Volvo 850 T-5R sedan, and he admits that his tires doesn't
grip as well as my P6000 when you REALLY pushes it. He nows run
a set of P7000 SuperSport, still he drives his other Volvo
when it snows ... a 2001 V70 XC AWD ... not his 1997 850 T-5R.
As for the Michelin's, I HATE THEM ! ... They are okay in the
snow, period.
They are VERY NOISY, the grips S-U-C-K-S, and ... basically ...
a piece of CRAMP ! Put it this way ... even you were to give
a set to me FREE for life ... I won't accept it !
Hope this helps !,
---
Kenny
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2001 Nissan Pathfinder SE; 1998 Volvo S70 GLE
Scott,
I'll add my vote along with A.T.W. and the Groundhog for the Dunlop
SP 5000's. My wife has a set on her car, and when the
Michelins on my V70 wear out, I plan on replacing them with Dunlops.
Despite what Kenny might think, I've found them to be
great wet weather tires. However, while they are clasified as
Ultra High Performance All-Season tires, I don't know how they
will do in heavy snow. Looking at the tread pattern, I'd guess
not that well. All three of your choices are designed for light
snow. I always switch to real snow tires for the winter, and
if you have a set on steel wheels, it's not that big a deal, and no
more expensive in the long run. Just something to think about.
Koz,
Go with the Potenza RE950 tires. They are a directional wet traction
tread, quite, comfortable, affordable and they grip. I put a
set on my '95 and will put another set on my '96. You also get
a 30 day test drive with the Bridgestones. You like them or your
money back. Check out the tire comparisons and reviews on tirerack.com.
Great source for information from people driving on
the tires. The RE950s are top rated.
Kenny... where's the new BMW?
--
'00 S4 6spd, '80 245 DL
I have Bridgstone Potenza RE-730s (about $130 each after mounting)
on my 98 S70 T5M. They give a harsher ride then the XGT V4s but
handle very well. So, on the XGT V4s I liked them and they did
seem to have a good performance/ride trade-off. But, they are
way to expensive. If they were $100 each I would have used them
again. However, after going with the more performance oriented
730s I realized that Volvo probably did a good job tuning the
car to the OEM tires (again in terms of ride quality -- a common
area of complaint on the 850 series).
I did find the XGT V4s easy to drive fast in that they tell you
when they reach their limits as they start to slide a bit before
really letting go (a good tire for average drivers and
most of us have average driving skills, even if we don't like
to
admit it).
--
Ray Niblett 98 S70 T5M / 95 855 GLT
The RE950's are only H rated tires, wouldn't this be a little
low for a car of this performance level? (the T5) It would seem that
nothing lower than a V-rated tire should be used with this car.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
--
'98 S70 T5-M - Tropic Green w/ tan, Spoiler, Fog Lights, CD-6
Changer, Cold Weather Pkg, Sunroof, recently installed SC-900
and external amp
How fast do you intend to drive for sustained periods? I am lucky
if I can drive >80mph without a ticket. When passing I will
kick it up to 100-110mph on two lanes, less on multi-lanes. If
your in Europe, I understand. If your in the USA, I have a surplus
of state troopers in Missouri I would like to send you. If speeds
greater than 130mph are normal for you, then go for a V or W
rated tire and enjoy. If not, I still recommend the RE950 as
an excellent tread. If you want to be a little unethical, take up
Firestone/Bridgestone on their 30 day test drive and change tire
types monthly, then post a review of each tire you try. Just
think of the valuable service you would provide to your fellow
Brickboarders.
how fast do i intend? or how fast would I like to be going....
Though that idea of the monthly tire change didn't sound all that bad....
but here's my question... if speed ratings above H are ONLY necessary
for speed trips in excess of the rated speed, 130, then
why is it that these tires are even sold?
In my mind I felt that for a high performance car with lot's of
torque and hp, a tire with a hire speed rating would likely last
longer. Maybe I'm buying into the marketing machine and putting
my money exactly where they want me to....
Don't feel that I'm bashing you, because that is in no way my
intention. (actually, I prefer Bridgestone tires over anything else,
I loved the set of RE730's on my last car)
But for the same price (about 50 bucks less per set, actually)
I can get the hire speed rated (and higher rated overall at
tirerack.com) dunlops which many brickboarders here highly recommend.
Someone needs to tell me what this speed rating stuff is really all about!
Scott Silverman
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'98 S70 T5-M - Tropic Green w/ tan, Spoiler, Fog Lights, CD-6
Changer, Cold Weather Pkg, Sunroof, recently installed SC-900
and external amp
I had the same issues with the speed ratings myself in recent
weeks. I knew the the OEM tires on my GLT were V-rated but
when I purchased the car a month ago, it had 1 V-rated tire on
it, 2 H-rated tires on it and a T-rated tire on it! Needless to say,
I wanted a matched set ASAP.
I started looking at V-rated tires both at tirerack and locally.
I found out that beacuse Vs are considered "performance" tires,
they are not covered by the same road hazard warranties that
most H-rated tires are. This warranty is important to me as I
commute daily on a highway that is usually littered with all
sorts of debris (no joke - several tons of plate glass a few weeks
ago). So, because I am not an overly aggressive driver and traffic
never lets me get much faster than 80-85mph, H-rated tires
seemed to be a good choice.
Next problem - biggest local tire dealer says that their insurance
wouldn't allow them to sell me H-rated tires becasue they are
not OEM for my car and my car is "too new" (65,000 miles). So
now I started calling all of the Volvo dealers in the area and
every single one of them said that going with H-rated tires is
absolutely fine. So I went back to the tire dealer (different location
- the first guy I spoke to was plain rude)with this info and
now I'm all set.
Tirerack was great for researching tires but I found that you
can't get the same warranties and service unless you buy locally.
Plus, armed with Tirerack prices, there's lots of room for bargaining
and by the time you have your tires shipped, mounted,
balanced and aligned, they're not much cheaper than the ones
down the street.
Good luck!
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1998 S70 GLT
Rocky,
Didn't like it anymore, found it to be a girl car more than a
car that a 23-yrs old boy should be driving, so I GAVE it to my
girlfriend and brought myself a silver 2001 NISSAN PATHFINDER
SE 3.5L Yep ! the one w/
240 horses and 265ft/lb under the hood. Can't wait until my chip
upgrade arrive to boost the power up to 300 ponies, as far as
the company claims.
S4 are nice fast cars, but when you got 1 feet of water or/ snow
to cross or/ a deep pothole to travel thru or/ need to tow a pair
of jet-ski's, they JUST don't do the job like a SUV or a full-size
truck.
Let's be practical .. how fast can you go before the red &
blue light appear on your reaview mirror ? For the price of a S4, I
rather buy
a nice silver Mercedes-Benz E430 4Matic sedan OR/ a BMW 540i
Sport. This is NOT to say that I don't like the S4 .. I luv it ..
but don't see the need to pay that much for power that I probably
NEVER use anyway like my friend who also just traded his
940T for a '01 S4.
---
Kenny
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2001 Nissan Pathfinder SE; 1998 Volvo S70 GLE
Hi Scott: No bash taken or intended. The fastest sustained speed
I ever pulled off was 125 mph across Mississippi on I-20 in
the middle of the night. I was driving a '87 Ford F250 4x4 with
a 4sp. manual and a 460ci engine. It wore me out and I was
much younger then. Driving a Volvo at that speed would be a different
story. I did pull off 110 mph recently in my '96 850
coming up the Florida turnpike out of Miami. It was in the rain
and I had to slow down to 90 mph on occasion. I did this on
marginal H rated tires and the car handled fine.
Now as far as your question on speed ratings, I am just a layman
so I only know what I read and hear. As I understand, the
rating not only affects speed, but braking performance as well.
I also think that higher speed ratings = less tread life. I may be
wrong, I often am. You have an excellent question so I am going
to refer you to Volvospeed.com and Charles Findley,
Webmaster. He posts here often and is a wealth of information.
Let us know what tire you end up with and how you like them.
P.S. Another post suggested taking your tirerack.com quote to
help negotiate prices. Tire shops have a wide margin on their
markup and will deal. I got my last set at car dealer price and
that saved me over $100.00.
Kenny wrote:
> Rocky,
> Didn't like it anymore, found it to be a girl car more than
a car
> that a 23-yrs old boy should be driving, so I GAVE it to my
> girlfriend
Would that be your mother Kenny? Someone of your obvious intellectual
deficiencies and pathological nature couldn't score
with anyone but those forced to protect you.
> and brought myself a silver 2001 NISSAN PATHFINDER SE 3.5L
> Yep ! the one w/
> 240 horses and 265ft/lb under the hood. Can't wait until my
chip
> upgrade arrive to boost the power up to 300 ponies, as far
as the
> company claims.
Yeah. Tons of use for 300 HP in a UTE. Just what I want. A vehicle
with a high centre of gravity, more weight to lug around,
longer braking distances and some punk kid who jams another 60
HP under the hood who probably has no clue what he's
doing (as evidenced through all of your past rants).
> S4 are nice fast cars, but when you got 1 feet of water or/
snow to
> cross or/ a deep pothole to travel thru or/ need to tow a pair
of
> jet-ski's, they JUST don't do the job like a SUV or a full-size
> truck.
Yeah right. Haldex AWD is crap compared to 4WD? You are as stupid
as you sound Kenny. With a set of snows, an S4 will
easily outhandle your ficticiously owned UTE.
> Let's be practical .. how fast can you go before the red &
blue
> light appear on your reaview mirror ?
As fast as you did in your dreamland Z3, Arnage or Diablo.
> For the price of a S4, I rather
> buy
> a nice silver Mercedes-Benz E430 4Matic sedan OR/ a BMW 540i
Sport.
Price?? Once again Kenny, you never cease to amaze us with a complete
lack of automotive intellect. I'll keep it simple for
you in Canadian dollars Kenny as I know you live in B.C.
The S4's Canadian base price is $57 200 for the 2001 MY. The other
two cars you mentioned, the Bimmer and Merc are $79
600 and $79 550. So what you meant to say is that for the price
of an S4 and an extra $22 500, you'd get the Bimmer or
Merc. Right? Moron!
> This is NOT to say that I don't like the S4 .. I luv it .. but
don't
> see the need to pay that much for power that I probably NEVER
use
> anyway like my friend who also just traded his 940T for a '01
S4.
250 HP isn't power you can't use. The S4 is extremely well engineered
to allow you to use almost all of it right off the line and
on up into the highly illegal speed stratosphere. The current
T5 is only 3 HP shy of that mark.
Please Kenny, do us all a favor and climb back beneath the rock
where you obviously reside. You have little value to add here.
Scott: I need to correct an error with my sincere apology to Charles
Linden, Webmaster @ volvospeed.com. for listing his
name incorrectly.
I have 4 Dunlop Sport 5000 tires on my S70GLT, those tires are
great and inexpensive comparing to Michelin. The OEM MXV4
that came with my car had almost cost me an accident last Winter,
those tires have problem gripping in light rain, not to
mention snow.
I have driven with those Dunlop 5000s in heavy rain and they could
get rid of water very quickly, all those rain water got
expelled toward the center of the car as the outer tread blocks
on those tires are linked to provide cornering stability. I have
yet tried out how they perform in snow. I do predict it will
perform well in light snow. Best of luck in tire shopping.
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