1 of 15 From: M_MOUNTRE
To: ALL
Dec-9 2:19 pm
2539.1

I am just as crazy about Jesus as The Next Guy. But I would like to know if anyone 'gets it' yet. Okay. The physical Truth of Jesus is something that had to have happened. If people were to write about someone, they must have seen it, right? But what the Ancient Hebrews wrote about was Elohim. -IM is pluralism. That is, more than one. EL means 'God' mostly, but before that it was used by the Babylonians to mean 'the sky' ELOHIM, then means, those from the Sky. Some of you would like to tell me that those are angels. No... ELOHIM is used in the Bible to signify the 'person' (singular), you call God. He is only called God because Roman Scholars translated ELOHIM as Deus. There is no question that these sky-people were the father of Jesus, he shouts Eloi, Eloi, why hast thou forsaken me, on the cross (which was made by Romans, ironically...) Okay.

Jesus was born of a Virgin Mother. An Angel, came down from Heaven. (Remember that the Firmament or Heaven is actually the Sky.) We have been visited by Many 'angels' who have performed experiments on us since 1943 and the Philadelphia and Montauk Experiments (if you read or knew about these, as Christians, you would be shocked at what OUR OWN GOVERNMENT has let in the door...). Roswell in 1947, and subsequent alien Abductions. There, if anything is your Rapture. Because those are the Same 'God' so to speak. Any technologically advanced civilization will look like Gods to primitive men.

We can produce many virgin Births today. This is called Artificial Insemination. Why is the Catholic Church against this? Hmmm. Who is to say that God is not an Alien Race, who engineered humanity, from 'dust' with a kind of blueprint for life, found in the text of Genesis. (This secret blue print has been passed down in Sacred Geometry). The reality of the situation is that man beleives that these Aliens are God. (the visitation on three little girls to make a prophecy... the vision of the Virgin Mary...) We only started 'learning' about cloning and things like that with the invention of the atomic bomb. What kind of horror have we unleashed on ourself?

God, ELOHIM, is an Alien. This is why "He" can be jealous,angry... any creative MIND can be. But so often God, ELOHIM is confused with the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. The UNIVERSE ITSELF is MINDLESS. It runs on Light and is infinitely Fractal and Chaotic. (Random). It cannot be worshipped because it is ALL PERVASIVE. "WE" are it's mind. This could be the idea of Holy Spirit. We therefore, being part of the universe, are free of will to believe what we must to Evolve, Spiritually. Jesus, being more than human, knew what we needed to do. Love. That simple.

And that is what for, the Roman Empire, with their blood rites, tried to kill him for. When they found that they could not, that beating him and cricifying him would only effectively ressurect him, they decided to turn him into an Idol. You now worship someone who is a hybrid human-alien, and had those extensive DNA-recursive light healing powers that would be useful with any recombinant RNA-DNA bieng. DNA is a crystal... an antennae of sorts. But ours are all Broken... what ELOHIM did @ the TOWER OF BABEL... we were on the verse of discovering their secret. He confused not our spoken language, but also the syntax of our DNA. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF ELOHIM. Elohim referred to aliens in general. Ezekiel saw one brand, and Moses another. Moses' Ark of the Covenant is actually a capacitor that goes in a chamber of the great pyramid... a power converter built by these aliens... it resonates @ a certain frequency and then so does our DNA...

So now you probably think I am crazy. Might I remind you that the Catholic church is still the basis for most everything that the Protestant churches beleive. Might I remind you that the Catholic Church stood by, and encouraged Hitler to kill millions of Jews. But what was important was the destruction of the Torah, the wiping of the word ELOHIM off the record. That was important to the Romans, to get you to believe that the power of God or ELOHIM was absolute, when in fact the ELOHIM are many things, many different races of beings. You worship the Blood of Jesus, do you not, and celebrate the Pagan Holiday of 'christmas'. That is Vampirism. This vampirism is the FOURTH BEAST. The ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE FOURTH BEAST. And the Catholic/ Protestant Beleifs are the MARK of that BEAST.

If you are going to study the Bible why do they not tell you the Truth in the Old testament reflects the things in the New? That ELOHIM is the same as ELOI? Why do you say that you have Victory in the Blood. Don't you get that the RULING class of ROME was the worship of war and BLOOD. This is PAGAN BLACK MAGICK. It is MARTIAN. And you are washed in the blood. I think that this is irrational and sick. Blood = death. You worship the death of your Pop star. Despite the fact that he was ressurected. That the romans could not stop his message of love from spreading. This would have compromised their empire. So one year - ooh, the king is Christian. And then years later, they become the Vatican. Did you know it was illegal for anyone but the church to own abible for the longest. Not being able to read was rampant. You can only keep people in ignorance if you don't teach them, and keep them away from knowledge. They furnish you with New testament copies of the greek translations... but you have you ever seen a hebrew translation for sale? You would have to go to the Masons for this. Or a hebrew. Thus ELOHIM is cut out of your discussions, killed by hitler, and shunned by bookstores. You regret the Truth of your Death-Cult. It has gotten very big... Don't kill the unborn child! Let him grow up in our warrior-state, learn how to be a criminal or a spineless worker drone, and then when he dies his sorrow goes right into the psycho-collection plate. Eaten by the etheric ELOHIM. Or didn't you know. They don't eat flesh but emotions. That is why each of you LEARNS how NOT TO LOVE and create an EGO, which defends the self while destroying it, right?

But Jesus is still the TRUTH of LOVE and all this blood worship is hedonic idol-murdering. All the words of jesus are in red. But i hardly hear those spoken in the church, unless they want to tell me how I should vote or invest my money. Why should an organization which doesn't pay taxes be even remotely interested in the Order of Government?

-mm

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From: Tumbleweed (TUMBLEWEED56)
To: M_MOUNTRE
Dec-9 11:02 pm
2539.2 in reply to 2539.1

Oh Brother
God Bless

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From: lovetopraise
To: Tumbleweed (TUMBLEWEED56)
Dec-10 3:16 pm
2539.3 in reply to 2539.2

My sentiments exactly.

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From: M_MOUNTRE
To: lovetopraise
Dec-10 7:40 pm
2539.4 in reply to 2539.3

Yes, very little to say in response to this, to someone who has done their homework. You beleive in "sin", right? What seperates you from God is not your imperfections, but your simple Egotistical Religion, which has spung up around false teaching. Your cool graphics are just re-runs of OLD OUTDATED ROMAN IDEAS OF CONTROL. And yet you still worship them. Why?

But, Jesus remains A MASTER, but not THE master. Unknowingly you remain a slave. Wake up. Jesus taught love, not WORSHIP. He was born not of Man, because his parents were Alien. You think that is here say, that GOD created no aliens. You probably think that the planet is Flat. Sure. Go on worshipping the BLOOD and DEATH of CHRIST. Nevermind the fact that he was RESSURECTED by powers that all men possess... THE DIVINE WILL, the Flame within the Light.

The wisemen followed a 'fast moving star', that preceeded the birth of christ... was this a spacecraft? When will you become aware and illumined by Divine Deception? No you will only be drug into hero and idol worship. Worship Jesus worship God, though this was never the way of the hebrew. They were afraid of these beings, and yet awed by them. You talk about the fear of God, yet you have no clue, what it is like to be a meek species and to be controlled by alien Gods who can recreate your DNA with a thought or a touch. They seemed like Gods, long ago, but they are a state WE could attain. Just follow the WORDS of JESUS, not the IMAGE. One of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not worship graven images. That includes the dead. Jesus lived long ago, with the idea of Christ in him. This fish you put on your cars is Sacred Geometry. It's a vescica pisces. It represents the idea "MER" of the Hebrew idea MERKABA (light-spirit-body). Taught by the first part of the Christ experiment, the Pharaoh Ahkenaten. He began an experimental religion long before Jesus, and created the Essene community from which Mary was chosen. (Jesus is Good. I am not saying that Jesus is an evil alien... I am trying to say that you have been misled by ignorant Black Magickal Roman Pagan Catholic ideas.) Mary gave birth to the genetic clone of Thoth... and possibly Thoth's soul inhabited Jesus, as Thoth is meant to do - have you ever read the emerald tablets of thoth? Probably not, you study one book too long. One book, mistranslated at that.

Anyway, I spend time in your churches, listening to your sermons, and I understand exactly what is going on. I could be anyone of your congregation. I am intelligence. Do you know that in hebrew the word intelligence is a good ghost and the word spirit is a dead qliphothic one? Not that i am asking Christians to understand the Qliphoth they pay homage to in symbolic blood. But the Qliphothic are the essential evil- Entropic force of the anti-universe... I'm not making it up, look in any hebrew book! The intelligences of things are the vibrant and chaotic ghosts, and support life. You have relegated Intelligence to the idea of Satan, which is borrowed from the name Zetan. The Zeta Reticuli, if you look that word up in any search, is the cute little Bug-Eyed Grey aliens. They were involved in the Luciferian Rebellion in bringing that kind of Qliphothic energy to Earth, long ago, like what you know as the Allegory of Adam and Eve... but the story of Adam and Eve is not true... That is speaking of how the Earth was cleaved by a comet called Nemesis... or Nibiru... ancient babylonian things you may have overlooked.

The Hebrews came out of the land of Babylon, and a lot of the story has been changed, you know. But no one has ever really gone to the source of information. They have been complacent and content with their Christian Prescriptures.

-MM

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From: "RedwOrC" (GARYCROWDER)
To: M_MOUNTRE
Dec-11 9:13 am
2539.5 in reply to 2539.1

uh oh, a martian.

(Graphic proclaiming: at the name of jesus every knee shall bow, and every tounge confess that jesus christ is lord)

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From: PRAZSINGR
To: "RedwOrC" (GARYCROWDER)
Dec-11 9:27 am
2539.6 in reply to 2539.5

Welcome back to the boards you have been missed. Got up typical monday morning and the kids were fighting as they got ready. I turn on the computer and started reading your posts. First and smile about Gore being breeched then a chuckle about frosty and then this made me laugh. Thank you for improving my morning :)

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From: The lady Terwilliger (MEL_IS_WEIRD)
To: PRAZSINGR
Dec-11 8:02 pm
2539.7 in reply to 2539.6

This thread is pretty...eh, must bite tongue. I have to do a lot of that. Anyway, Jesus an alien? How would that even be possible? *smacks forehead* Duh! Come on, now, use a little rationality. Pretty please, with angel feathers on top

Anyway, I find it extremely hard to take this kinda stuff seriously. My purpose being comic relief and all. I'm bored. Ignore me.

8 of 15
From: PRAZSINGR
To: The lady Terwilliger (MEL_IS_WEIRD)
Dec-11 9:34 pm
2539.8 in reply to 2539.7

I am in full agreement on this it is so far out there.

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From: Tumbleweed (TUMBLEWEED56)
To: PRAZSINGR
Dec-12 5:23 pm
2539.9 in reply to 2539.8

I reiterate: Oh Brother.....*shakes head in amazement*
God Bless

10 of 15
From: M_MOUNTRE
To: Tumbleweed (TUMBLEWEED56)
Dec-12 6:38 pm
2539.10 in reply to 2539.9

Yes, the typical response is to throw up one's hands to the Truth, as the Romans did, until they controlled it. "how can jesus be an alien if we don't beleive in aliens," just as the CATHOLIC CHURCH didn't beleive in America, yet it EXISTED. And once they discovered another people living there... what happened but extermination of the Native American People. Yet, this is reversed with the Aliens. Some of them DON'T BELEIVE IN YOU. The Rapture is your alien abductions. I'm telling you. You can think this is funny. You can laugh at this. But somehow the evidence overwhelms you. Who are the ELOHIM. Have any of you awnsered the questions I've posed, or simply thrown up your hands.

AH, this is funny, this is martian, yes, well so is the worship of Blood. That is part of the cult which ruled over rome. Alien blood, if it were spilled... well, that would be a pretty good sacrifice to a war god, dont you think? And the symbol of Christianity is a cross? If Jesus came back, do you think he'd want to see that again? After what the Romans did to him? No, the cross is a Sword. Another tool of the Worship of Mars.

And you with all of your victory in the blood. Really just more war-ship of Mars. Have you looked into Babylonian Myths? No no, the Original Words escape your false tounges. ELOHIM doesn't equal GOD. -IM added to any Hebrew word PLURALIZES it. There were Gods in the beginning. But your bible says God, and it says worship the Blood (but it doesn't - it says Love thy naighbor - the Cathays said to worship the blood.) How can you worship the blood and love thy neighbor at the same time. The words of Jesus conflict with the behaviour of his followers, as with ANY ORDER.

No, the words of Jesus said Drink and Eat in rememberance of me - NOT TO DRINK AND EAT ME. Jesus never says that we are not capable of anything that we are, and he uses the word Eloi - never ever did he use the word God. Eloi, Eloi why hast thou forsaken me. The Eloim could not interfere with his RESSURECTION, after 3 days, as per any initiation rite. Furthermore, you have not come up with any evidence that I am wrong.

You have simply said "ha ha," like any person who has nothing to say and is outdone would if he were trying not to lose his precious position on the totem pole.

Nowhere here did i say that Jesus isn't A master. But is he THE master? There are many masters. have you fully explored that? No. One book, one mind. You are Romero's Living Dead...

-MM

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From: Tumbleweed (TUMBLEWEED56)
To: M_MOUNTRE
2539.11 in reply to 2539.10

Clearly you have not one ounce of understanding of Christianity. Nor from your post, do you care to have any. *still shaking head in amazement* At least do your homework if you are going to speak on subjects that are personally unrealized by you.

God Bless, may the Father touch your heart, and make Himself known to you

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From: "RedwOrC" (GARYCROWDER)
To: ALL
2539.13 in reply to 2539.10

Can someone show him/her the door please. This goes way beyond tolerance

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From: The lady Terwilliger (MEL_IS_WEIRD)
To: M_MOUNTRE
2539.14 in reply to 2539.10

'Ey, this goes b'yond puttin' moi 'ead through th' window in fr'stration. Pardon the accent, I've been doing it for two days. But what *can* you say to someone who insists upon seeing falseness behind truth; perhaps he'd (I'm assuming the one causing this thrice-blasted ruckus is male, mostly because I've had *no* sleep) rather there be no absolute truth, perhaps he'd rather us live in a moral vacuum. But I, for one, will not go back to living in the darkness. I will not go back to what I was. And God will not fit His Truth to what anyone thinks it should be; God is eternal, everlasting, unlike we ever-changing humans. And that's good. At least God knows what He's doing, because, kids, I haven't the slightest clue sometimes, especially in the morning. You can uncover your ears now; I'm done ranting and raving, which is something I do particularly well.

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2539.15 in reply to 2539.14

Aha. By saying that you think that I don't understand, and that you want to show me the door, and that yu are taking me, booting me out of your chat room without listening what i have to say only proves that you have not only closed minds, but you are defending your position on the Totem Pole.

If you wanted to DISCUSS anything - which you have not- you would have done so by now. This is a DISCUSSION board. You think that I do not understand christianity. I understand the terminology of Christianity, and I have lived the Christian Lifestyle.

No words on anything I have said... STILL. I have only been met with laughing and words - but no qoutes from the Bible to prove me wrong. You have accused me of being ignorant, while you stand paralyzed by fear that I have perhaps uncovered a beehive.

I see that none of you can refute the evidence of the ELOHIM. I see that none of you can stand up with any evidence that I am wrong... you arbitrarily say that I am silly or martian. Yet you continue to worship suffering and death without any regard where you are going. I feel sorry that you cannot follow the teachings of the Master Jesus, which is simply love the One True God, and thy neighbor. Your attitudes do not by any means reflect the true Christian attitude.

They do reflect the ancient Roman ways, however.

By saying that there is no sin, I AM SAYING THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS. Not Christ, Not Jesus, not God, and not Satan. YOU. "Sin" in of itself was an idea that began in Eden, right? The original sin is to beleive in good and evil. If you beleive in evil, that there is evil, then THAT is sin. "Sin" is nothing more than a trap of logic, in dualism. There is no "Sin" in the fact that all there can be -that Jesus taught- is love. I am not saying that there should be no morality. But you assume cynically that humans, when not bound by laws, will not follow civility. Then why do you if you beleive this, call the things around you "civilizations". If you call yourself a christian, why do you not follow the morality of Christ? To heal those around you with love?You can only do this if you are not bound by the ideas of sin, cynical and untrusting of the people around you AS YOU SEEM TO BE WITH ME. You have darned yourself with your laughing and your words. All of your words, by the way are going up for everyone - I mean EVERYONE to see, as an example.

Thus is this the Christian Example you want to set? That you do not beleive that humanity has been tampered with, that you are not going to say that Christ said love, no matter where the message had really come from? Are you going to say that you cult is more important. that I should be 'saved' rather than to love my neighbor? That you are going to fall for Idol worship despite the 10 commandments and try to boot me off your communication, like my opinion does not matter.

That you do not want to discuss this any further to reconcile what your religion is doing to you and millions, and how it lets 'evil' exist in the world through believing in it. That you may create doomsday by beleiving a critical mass of it, you will draw great Tribulation upon us... don't you see the signs?

but don't just TELL me I am wrong... come on show me... perhaps I am teaching you apologetics... I'm waiting.

-MM