| Evolution and the randomness of the universe. Is it more dogma than actual "science"? |
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| Resources and different opinions: |
| Hold on a second! I thought all science was based on factual results of experiments. Why am I to believe they are wrong in this field of evolution? |
| "We (evolutionists) have been telling our students for years not to accept any statement on its face value but to examine the evidence, and, therefore, it is rather a shock to discover that we have failed to follow our own sound advice." -John Tyler Bonner |
| "...the philosophy of evolution is based upon assumptions that cannot be scientifically verified...whatever evidence can be assembled for evolution is both limited and circumstantial in nature." -G.A. Kerkut |
| Ah, assumptions. So what are these assumptions that you speak of? |
| (1) Non-living things gave rise to living material, i.e. spontaneous generation occurred. |
| (2) Spontaneous generation occurred only once. |
| (3) Viruses, bacteria, plants, and animals are all interrelated. |
| (4) Protozoa gave rise to the Metazoa. |
| (5) Various invertebrate phyla are interrelated. |
| (6) Invertebrates gave rise to the vertebrates. |
| (7) Within the vertebrates the fish gave rise to the amphibia, the amphibia to the reptiles, and the reptiles to the birds and mammals. |
| Wow, that's quite a lot of assumptions. Is there any logic behind it all? |
| Let's first take a look at (1) and (2) some of the grander assumptions: |
| More importantly, what does God say? |
| "Who is this who darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me. Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the songs of God shouted for joy?" -Job 38: 4-7 |
| "Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood it from the foundations of th Earth? He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in." -Isaiah 40:21-22 |
| "I have asked myself whether I may not have devoted my life to a fantasy. I...am ready to cry with vexation at my blindness and presumption." -Charles Darwin, author of the natural selection theory |
| "This situation, where men rally to the defense of a doctrine they are unable to define scientically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigor, attempting to maintain its credit with the public rigor, attempting to maintain its credit with the public by the supression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science." -W.R. Thompson |
| These assumptions simply alludes that there is no God and that all life and the universe, with its limitless laws on physics and reality, is simply a series of random events..... <supporting Big Bang> "Another explanation is that some intelligent being that is not under the constraints of the universe, nor abiding by its laws, created it. That intelligent being must be a God or a group of gods. There is actually some scientific evidence supporting this, namely the fact that the big bang must have exploded with perfect velocity. Too much velocity and matter would have flown out too fast for particles to pull together, and no galaxies, stars or solar systems would have been created. Too little velocity and the universe would have collapsed in on itself. Physicist Paul Davies calculates that the forces of gravirty would have to have been accurate within 1 part of 10 to the 60th power. or a 1 with sixty 0s in front of it or 1x10^-60 (for example 1 part of 10 to the 5th power is 0.000001) |
| In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth... Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:1,31 |
| "The irony is devastating. The main purpose of Darwinism was to drive every last trace of an incredible God from biology. But the theory replaces God with an even more incredible deity --omnipotent chance." -Theodore Rosazak |
| "It has been estimated that no fewer than 800 phrases in the subjunctive mode (such as 'Let us assume,' or 'We may well suppose,' etc.) are to be found between the covers of Darwin's Origin of Species alone." -L. Merson Davies |
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| The Big Bang theorists state that the Universe is in a constant state of expansion. They also argue that thge stars we see have traveled billions of years verifying their belief in the 'old universe' .. "According to how far away they (the stars) are, light from the stars is pushed toward the red end of the color spectrum. (Stars farther away are more red due to the effects of graviry, first conjectured by Einstein) The amount of skewing is proportional distance to the star which sent the light ray to us. (Stars' color is also affected because they lose energy on their trip leading the light to be termed "tired light.") What is the cause of this shift toward the red? Evolutionists rely on a disproved theory (the speed theory) of the redshift in an effort to show there was a Big Bang. Accepting the speed theory makes it appear the universe is expanding (or the expanding universe theory.) The evolutionists need an expanding universe because their theory teaches that everything flowed outward from the Big Bang- which is proven by the fact that the universe is still moving outward. But the speed theory is incorrect, so the Universe is not expanding." -Harp T. Alston, the scientist behind many of these discoveries was fired for uncovering evidence contrary to the Big Bang Theory Let us take the basic method of determining time (t): time= distance/speed (rate) So what could effect what we see as time? (what God has created, e.g. "In the beginning") First of all, the speed of light, used to judge the distance of stars and how long it took for them to arrive, and confirming an old universe, could be affected if the speed of light (c) itself was decelerating. This theory called 'cdk' states that the decelerating speed causes the red-shift of distant galaxies and radiometric dating results. The authors of this theory were Barry Setterfield and Trevor Norman, who provided some evidence. Nonetheless, the theory is questionable and many inconsistencies are pointed out., paritcularly by the creationist physicist Dr. Russel Humphreys who spent well over a year finding evidence that he did not uncover to confirm Setterfield and Norman's claim. |
| The Big Bang, random act, or Big Hoax? |
| Evolution.. "Believable? I suppose that depends on who you are. Before you accept such hypotheses as facts, you should amass as much scientific knowledge as [Wernher] von Braun, the recognized techonological genius of the 20th century, who dismisses the thoery with a comment: "There are those who argue that the universe evolved out of a random process, but what random process could produce the brain of a man or the system of a human eye?.. When a man of science is a man of faith, he doesn't become an inferior scientist. He simply becomes a superior man. The scientific method demands for more than the thoery of biolioical evolution has been able to supply."" |
| How can this evolutionary Big Bang thing be a hoax? I don't see anything in the textbooks disproving it. |
| Why as a matter of fact, you do. The information is just not put in the same chapter because they are not "relevant." So what are just a few of the major laws discovered by physicists that evolution doesn't obey? |
| The First Law of Thermodynamics (or the Law of Conversation of Mass/Energy): Mass/energy cannot by itself be created or destroyed. Matter/energy may be changed from one form into another, but the total amount remains unchanged. |
| "This website has one very clear objective in mind--to present a critique of creation "science"...It is my opinion that creation "scientists" (along with the rest of their Religious Right companions) represent, in their attempts to re-mold American society in accordance with their own narrow beliefs , the single greatest threat to freedom and democracy in the United States today." -Evolution Science Webpage;; Obviously not very objective, I can not see how faith in creation puts America's democracy in jeapordy when most all of our founders were devout Christians who believed in creation. As the slogan goes "In God we Trust" (even in His account in Genesis). Satan working in the hearts of men to stamp out US founders' dream. |
| Is the time table for this spontaneous generation even correct? How do they prove that the universe is so and so billion years old and that it is expanding because of the Big Bang? |
| "Because money doesn't grow from trees, and living humans don't come from dead rocks." |
| "We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought o know. But if anyone loves God this is known by Him...we know that an idol (even believing your science textbook when it contradicts God) is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one... yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things and we for Him; and one our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live." -1 Corinthians 2:6-8 |
So does this fit in with evolution's grand scheme of things? Evolutionists rely on the Big Bang primarily to explain the existence of matter and assume that this paves the way for a random series of events leading to life on Earth. But does the Big Bang agree with Law #1 of thermodynamics? Let us see how the law first works. If an atomic or MOAB bomb falls onto a city, neither energy nor mass is destroyed. The matter which is no longer there has been converted into energy or another form of matter. But how did this Big Bang arise from nothing to create a seemingly infinite universe? Here, the Big Bang falters. Just as money does not fall from the sky, nothing does not give way to stars, monkeys, bananas, or humans. |
| So if this much is uncertain, then what can explain the vast distance light seems to have travelled? |
| It is difficult to say that the distances are false, and the same is to be said about the speed of light as said earlier. So the one thing left in our equation of time = distance/rate is time itself. Time itself is not a constant, as often stated by Albert Einstein his theories of relativity. This is a very complicated topic. It is my opinion that this is beyond the limited knowledge of man. |
| "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of all knowledge but fools despise widom and discipline." -Proverbs |
| "Science without religion is lame." -Albert Einstein |
| All is not well in the Science Kingdom. Not all scientists agree to the doctrine of random generation.... |